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bonez
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:02 am 

has anyone seen the movie "Stealth" yet? a VERY good movie. so here's my question: is anyone developing the Stealth jets that they were flying in the movie? i'm talking in particular to the piloted ones, not the AI one.
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:42 am 

bonez wrote:
has anyone seen the movie "Stealth" yet? a VERY good movie. so here's my question: is anyone developing the Stealth jets that they were flying in the movie? i'm talking in particular to the piloted ones, not the AI one.


You appear to be lightyears ahead of us bonez... give us time to catch up with you Fear

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:33 am 

Shocked Not seen it,but here is the site for the film

http://www.sonypictures.com/homevideo/stealth/
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:16 am 

Sony Pictures... they don't give much away, do they. The media player is the size of a thumbnail Shocked

Anyway, the thing is called the 'Talon', looks pretty mean, a bit like the Gaoulds craft out of Star Gate, is super intelligent and can operate off a carrier...WOW!
A wee picture - I hope Sony isn't gonna have the FBI knocking on my door Fear
Arrow http://www.sonypictures.com/groups/us/documents/image/p7137776.jpg

Umm... I very much doubt that anyone has begun to develop either the manned or the AI beasts yet.
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:19 pm 

Tailhook wrote:
Sony Pictures... they don't give much away, do they. The media player is the size of a thumbnail Shocked

Anyway, the thing is called the 'Talon', looks pretty mean, a bit like the Gaoulds craft out of Star Gate, is super intelligent and can operate off a carrier...WOW!
A wee picture - I hope Sony isn't gonna have the FBI knocking on my door Fear
Arrow http://www.sonypictures.com/groups/us/documents/image/p7137776.jpg

Umm... I very much doubt that anyone has begun to develop either the manned or the AI beasts yet.



i'm looking for the piloted jets, not the AI. though the AI jet has VSTOL and one part in the movie hinted that the Talons (non-AI) maybe had VSTOL, but we never actually saw them use it. the AI craft used VSTOL several times through the movie. the previews of the movie don't do the movie justice. the movie is WAY better than the previews. they just didn't want to give too much away about the movie. if you haven't seen it, it's on DVD.

if i have to learn how to make planes for FS2004 myself just to fly the Talon, then i guess that's what i'll have to do Smile
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:39 pm 

bonez wrote:


if i have to learn how to make planes for FS2004 myself just to fly the Talon, then i guess that's what i'll have to do Smile


That's the spirit, I admire your enthusiasm. Thumbs Up!
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:07 pm 

Is this it?
http://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/731/fs2004-fs2002-northrop-t-38-talon/

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:51 pm 

RadarMan wrote:
Is this it?
http://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/731/fs2004-fs2002-northrop-t-38-talon/

Radar


No, that's not the same Talon. I'll see if I can dig up some pics. I would love to be able to fly that plane also. Aircraft with forward-swept wings rule!
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:56 pm 

Here's a site with some reasonable shots. It's called the F/A-37 Talon.

http://www.allmoviephoto.com/photo/2005_Stealth_photo.html
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bonez
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:24 pm 

the F/A-37 must be a newer, faster, upgraded version of the Switchblade:

http://www.area51zone.com/aircraft/switchblade.shtml

they are strikingly similar, however i'd rather have the F/A-37 Talon Very Happy
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:53 pm 

Edit: Just ran aacross this site while googling for Switchblade. It's a couple of stills from Stealth.
http://cryptome.sabotage.org/unknown-jet.htm

Sweet! If I knew more about 3d modeling and building the files for a plane in FS2004 I'd be on it right now. Just in the past week or two I've started playing around with GMax so I'm not quite up to it just yet.

That site you posted has some nice views to work with though. Just needs a little cosmetic work to make it look like a Talon. In the next few days I'll see if I can get anywhere in building a model. Anyone got some good tutorial links on how the craft should be setup?


And a bit of history...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_287
The Junkers Ju-287, the first aircraft (that I know of) with forward-swept wings.
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:29 pm 

i can't believe they built real prop planes for that aircraft carrier. wonder how they got those props (F/A-37) on and off the carrier. probably assembled and disassebled on the carrier. they sure didn't fly them! but then again, as real as they look in those pictures you posted, you may just never know! lol Very Happy
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 2:13 am 

Yo a guy is already makin the plane for FS2004 and im bout to get started on it and hopfully come out with it before him or just make upgrades take a look....
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:31 pm 

Hey NeloAngeloVX, this plane ur talikn about isnt for FS2004!!!! Its for Third Wire products (Strike Fighters). Daaaammmmnn
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:58 pm 

Sad someone please finish the talon already Exclamation
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:35 am 

Yes IC there are many others who have the same wish as I do. IfI new how to do this I would have made one once I saw the movie but my programing and skinning is not worth thinking about. Yet that is...

The thing that will be hardest about this plane is that in order to keep it real it will first need the proper cockpit but to add to this we will need all the same systems for it to keep it realistic and fun. The other thing I have noticed with other peoples work is that they tend to not work out the engines right. When you have a very powerful aircraft something very fast they tend to be too fast then what the plane can take in game. This will probebly be the hardest part seeig that the plane can move at mach at will and fly across the world in just minutes. How wil it be possbale to even setup a plane for fs2004 to behave like that in game with out getting fubared?

Anyway just some info to think about...
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:22 am 

I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, here's another surprise from the FSX SDK (copied):

"[folding wings]
This section describes the folding wing characteristics of the aircraft. Note that these are folding wings used to store an aircraft more compactly when on the ground, or on deck, and not the variable sweep wings used on some supersonic aircraft. Variable sweep wings are not supported in Flight Simulator X."

Therefore, I suppose a VG-winged aircraft will have to be made in the FS9-style and adapted accordingly. Not the end of the world, but makes one wonder what's going on with the changes in developing items for the new sim. I've pulled quite a few hairs out already.

OOPS - just realized this was in the FS9 section, my bad. Embarassed Well, in case someone is planning to develop something compatible between the two sims, it might be worth considering...
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:21 am 

nice
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 5:25 am 

i have the movie on dvd. i bought it because it has planes in it. honestly, the best thing about that movie is jen garner.
however, there is one peice of dialog i did get a chuckle out of.

Tim: [referring to EDI] He a... downloads songs from the web.
Lt. Ben Gannon: Yeah, how many?
Tim: All of them.
Lt. Ben Gannon: [laughs] Well you're in a pack of trouble with the record companies there, son.
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:00 am 

Alright. Since I am the one who actually do the digging, this is what I am tracking from Xplane.org. I used to have this program, but I have sinced uninstalled it. However I have read somewhere that you can add Xplanes aircraft in FSX and FS9.



Here is the site: (dead link removed)

Give props to this guy. He is busting his ass on this one.
Rodney J.
CEO, Southwest virtual Airways

"In the absence of orders, find something and kill it." - Erwin Rommel
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:47 pm 

Here she is for FSX:
http://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/2999/fsx-stealth-fa-37-talon/
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