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Newboy
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:15 pm 

How do I know that I have been established by the localizer. Is it when I first start hearng the beeps.

So when the ATC says "descend and maintain 2500 until established", does that mean start going lower than 2500 after you hear the beeps?

Also, this time i had a good landing except that the undercarraige never opened. I was just about to land and quickly had a spot view, but the wheels werent out. So i pressed gear up again. I thought maybe the wheels only come down after a certain altitude. But even at 2500 and below my wheels never came down. And because I have never done a go around, I crashed into the trees.

Any ideas

Newboy.
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Insight
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:21 am 

you should have a cockpit indicator to show you when your undercarrage is locked down... are you sure you are going slow enough for them to be lowered?

what are you flying?
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:38 am 

Newboy wrote:
How do I know that I have been established by the localizer. Is it when I first start hearng the beeps.

So when the ATC says "descend and maintain 2500 until established", does that mean start going lower than 2500 after you hear the beeps?

Also, this time i had a good landing except that the undercarraige never opened. I was just about to land and quickly had a spot view, but the wheels werent out. So i pressed gear up again. I thought maybe the wheels only come down after a certain altitude. But even at 2500 and below my wheels never came down. And because I have never done a go around, I crashed into the trees.

Any ideas

Newboy.


If ATC says something like that you must be flying IFR. When you are "established on the localizer" the little triangle on the heading indicator starts lowering. You have to have the frequencys and headings for the runway you are supposed to land on by clicking on the map icon button on the panel. Find the your airport on the map and click on it and scroll down and you will find the runway. Put the frequency into the NAV 1 or 2 radio. You may also want to take the instrument flying lessons in the lessons by Rod Machado. He will explain all about it for you if you have any more questions. And just press the G key on your keyboard or the button on your joystick to lower your gear. You can verify that is down, not by looking outside, but making sure that the green light is illimunated meaning that the gear is down and locked. Good flying! Smile

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OrlandoGeorge
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:43 am 

New,

All you really need to do is to press the 'G' key on your keyboard to bring your gear up or to lower them.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:30 am 

mypilot wrote:
Newboy wrote:
How do I know that I have been established by the localizer. Is it when I first start hearng the beeps.

So when the ATC says "descend and maintain 2500 until established", does that mean start going lower than 2500 after you hear the beeps?

Also, this time i had a good landing except that the undercarraige never opened. I was just about to land and quickly had a spot view, but the wheels werent out. So i pressed gear up again. I thought maybe the wheels only come down after a certain altitude. But even at 2500 and below my wheels never came down. And because I have never done a go around, I crashed into the trees.

Any ideas

Newboy.


If ATC says something like that you must be flying IFR. When you are "established on the localizer" the little triangle on the heading indicator starts lowering.


Not quite sure what you mean by that, mypilot. On some planes the little triangles on either side of the HSI mean that you are about to intercept the glide slope, not that you are on the localizer. The localizer is your left-right reference, the glide slope is your vertical reference.

Best advice is to go through the flight lessons (even if you never take the tests).

Ed
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