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Greekman72 Chief Captain

I would like to ask if there is a way from FS,or an alternative one, to check the mountains height.
The reason i ask is that, sometimes when we plant a direct GPS flight we have to pass over some mountains which possible are over the max altitude limit of our craft.
For example i fly over Swiss Alps with a Beechcrat Baron 58 and in order to pass over the mountains i had to reach the altitude of 3900m(12795feet)and maybe a a litle more...(about 4000m-13123f)
But!...FSpassengers gives Low Cabin Preassure warning when you pass 3700m(12139feet)-for the specific craft-so i have to dive between the mountains and search for a lower pass in order to keep my craft under the warning level.
I manage to pass the mountains but i had about 20 minutes delay to my flight.

Thanks in advance Wink

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Jonathan (99jolegg) Chief Captain

I too have also had that problem. I was trying to land my Baron 58 at Innsbruck (LOWI) in Austria, so descended to around 3000 feet, realised I was going to crash and quickly accelerated to climb Fear I came in to runway 8 about, 5nm out, at 7000 feet Shocked because the mountains were so high, so I cut power and cirlced whilst descending from 7000 feet. It would be useful to know how high mountains are so you know which route to take into an airport.
The only thing I can think of, is to look at the Approach Plates for the airport you are landing at because they all have an MSA (Minimum Safe Altitude) at which you can't be attacked by mountains Rolling Eyes Laughing

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liam (Liono) Chief Captain

This may sound like stupid answer but what about a world atlas. You can then check the height of mountains on route Dont Know

Just a thought mind you.

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Greekman72 Chief Captain

The only thing I can think of, is to look at the Approach Plates for the airport you are landing at because they all have an MSA (Minimum Safe Altitude) at which you can't be attacked by mountains

Yes this is very useful and i always check cause i have to check for the runway direction too,but what about if some mountains are between Fear Blink you and the airport... Wink

Well Jon i guess that maybe we need an international map specific enough to report heights etc neither an online one neither a book or something... Dont Know
Im going to search it a litle and if i find something interestin i ll let you know... Wink

Thanks for you reply my friend. Cheers!

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Greekman72 Chief Captain

Liono wrote:

This may sound like stupid answer but what about a world atlas. You can then check the height of mountains on route Dont Know

Just a thought mind you.

Not stupid at all Liono.I was writing something familiar but you was faster than me... Evil or Very Mad ... Wink Very Happy

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liam (Liono) Chief Captain

In my experience it just seemed like a good answer, they are easy to get hold of, it has all mountain heights and inexpensive as well, and can come in handy in the future as well.

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Greekman72 Chief Captain

Well i find something(not probably the best but it gives us a view).
You feel you Country name in the blank cell(right)and then it appears a menu which you can choose from multuple kind of maps.
If you choose Elevation you will get a coloured map of the area and if you click Map Legend you will see how these colors are expalined(Here is the problem.It doesnt gives us altitude but it sais high,normal etc.)

This is the only i could fine till this moment... Dont Know

madbrit Guest

I found a couple of options that might help.

1. FS2004

Create a flight plan without setting a specific cruise altitude and take a look at the navlog. It seems to be suggesting a minimum safe altitude.

I just set up a VOR-VOR flight plan from Cedar Rapids (KCID) in the midwest to Ontario Intl, California (KONT). Cruise altitude was given as 16000' in the navlog which would be high enough to clear the Rockies.

Also in FS when you have a flight plan set up take a look at it in the map view. If you hover the mouse over any airports along the flightpath you can see the airport altitude. It's the first number. The second number is runway length. Altitude of VORs can also be seen if you click on them.

2. FSNavigator (FSNav)

Mountain heights are shown on the map if you zoom in. They are shown as a number with a '^' symbol above them.

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ceetee Chief Captain

I dunno if this helps you or not but it's easy to get mountain alitudes wrong because the FS map and GPS show thier altitude in "metres" where as your aircraft altitude inicator shows your planes hight in "feet"

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cheekytrolly wrote:

I dunno if this helps you or not but it's easy to get mountain alitudes wrong because the FS map and GPS show thier altitude in "metres" where as your aircraft altitude inicator shows your planes hight in "feet"

Shows feet in all my maps and guages. Either a different version for the different countries or you have metric settings in the options.

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Greekman72 Chief Captain

Very interesting notices Madbrit.
I will give a more careful look at what you suggest(i admit that i hadnt till now this Embarassed -i mean about the suggested alt)I knew about Vor altidudes signs,amd airports too, but if you flight over vast areas such as Greenland,or Siberia for example,you cant find a lot of VOR points.

There is no problem about feet and meters...I have setup FS in metric system but if i get feet i just convert them.

Thanks a lot Madbrit.I appriciate your help. Wink

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CRJCapt Chief Captain

You can get simulated Jeppesen paper enroute charts that will give you the MEA (minimum enroute altitude) for your route of flight.

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Greekman72 Chief Captain

Great site CRJ.Im on it and searching.

Thanks a lot. Thumbs Up!

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99jolegg wrote:

I too have also had that problem. I was trying to land my Baron 58 at Innsbruck (LOWI) in Austria, so descended to around 3000 feet, realised I was going to crash and quickly accelerated to climb Fear I came in to runway 8 about, 5nm out, at 7000 feet Shocked because the mountains were so high, so I cut power and cirlced whilst descending from 7000 feet. It would be useful to know how high mountains are so you know which route to take into an airport.
The only thing I can think of, is to look at the Approach Plates for the airport you are landing at because they all have an MSA (Minimum Safe Altitude) at which you can't be attacked by mountains Rolling Eyes Laughing

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LOL i did the exact same thing earlier today at same airport. You have to fly around mountains as some are really high, and as the airports in a valley you gotta do a lot of circle work to lose altitude.

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Jonathan (99jolegg) Chief Captain

I didn't realise at the time, but if you approach the runway towards runway 26 (I think), the mountains are lower, so you get a better glideslope and don't have to knock passengers unconscious trying to descend quickly Wink

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