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CrashGordon Chief Captain

I have totally had it with the barage of spam on these forums. The only way to reduce it is to require (free) registration for the forums, rather than allowing anonymous posting.

Perhaps if all the members refused to post anything on Flyaway until the issue is resolved, something might be done to correct the situation.

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Jonathan (99jolegg) Chief Captain

😳 A bit drastic.

Something like a petition for free membership would be more useful and less insane. That way, Flyaway can see that something needs to be done, rather than being bullied into it.

Either that, or appoint a third moderator to clean the forums on a regular basis - I know TTT and RM are doing a fantastic job, but I'm sure clearing crap from the forums isn't highlight of the day for either of them.

Edit: One more thing...I have the upmost respect for you Crash, but why bother replying to their posts? Surely that just credits them and brings them back to the top of forum board? Thanks.

😉

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CrashGordon Chief Captain

A bit drastic.

The problem is that the problem has been brought up numerous times and nothing gets done.

The garbage gets posted at times moderators aren't available.

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CrashGordon Chief Captain

Edit: One more thing...I have the upmost respect for you Crash, but why bother replying to their posts? Surely that just credits them and brings them back to the top of forum board? Thanks.

Because the moderators see them quicker.

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Jonathan (99jolegg) Chief Captain

True, but I'd still be in favour of a petition over a boycott to be honest. If we all left on a boycott, then the only people posting would be the spammers... Umm...

😉

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CrashGordon Chief Captain

99jolegg wrote:

True, but I'd still be in favour of a petition over a boycott to be honest. If we all left on a boycott, then the only people posting would be the spammers... Umm...

😉

I believe I still have a PM in my outbox to Flyaway on another issue, which doesn't appear to have been read.

Spammers only spam if there are people to read it.

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Jonathan (99jolegg) Chief Captain

I was under the impression that around half of the spam posts are automated bots anyway Dont Know But yes, free membership would solve the problems. Lets see what others think 😉

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CrashGordon Chief Captain

Hmmm, that year-old PM is out of my outbox. Maybe I struck a nerve.

The idea of a boycott is that it sends a wake-up call and is difficult to ignore.

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davidmac1 First Officer

I agree with crash, but i think that a petition first, then wait to see what comes of it (not to long!) before a boycott would be the better course of action. Of course there would be the problem of some members refusing to refuse to post on the forum Umm...

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CrashGordon Chief Captain

davidmac1 wrote:

I agree with crash, but i think that a petition first, then wait to see what comes of it (not to long!) before a boycott would be the better course of action. Of course there would be the problem of some members refusing to refuse to post on the forum Umm...

True, but those will probably be the folks looking for barnyard animals in FS. 😂 😉

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davidmac1 First Officer

CrashGordon wrote:

davidmac1 wrote:

I agree with crash, but i think that a petition first, then wait to see what comes of it (not to long!) before a boycott would be the better course of action. Of course there would be the problem of some members refusing to refuse to post on the forum Umm...

True, but those will probably be the folks looking for barnyard animals in FS. 😂 😉

👏

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pilotwannabe Chief Captain

I disagree with a boycott....the spam on these forums isn't anyones fault except the Censored who post it. Why punish members, like myself, who enjoy posting on these forums, by calling for a boycott?? Just my opinion 😉

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hinch Chief Captain

it costs $5 to join, if you don't have that to join the best and most active forum...well then...i don't know how to continue this...

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Jake (JarJarBinks) Chief Captain

personally i dont think its fair that if we do allow free membership i want a refund because i paid money.

and fracly its not fair to me and think if other people want their money back then the owner of Fly away will become bank rupt or worse!

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CrashGordon Chief Captain

pilotwannabe wrote:

I disagree with a boycott....the spam on these forums isn't anyones fault except the Censored who post it. Why punish members, like myself, who enjoy posting on these forums, by calling for a boycott?? Just my opinion 😉

The blame for the spam rests with the spammer, but the blame for its being in the forums rests with whoever allows the spammers access to the forums.

If you aren't willing to sacrifice the necessary hours/days/weeks/monhths it will take to ensure spammers are no longer permitted access to the forums, then enjoy the spam.

I'm done talking about this. It is obvious the idea won't fly, and talking about spam does nothing to stop spam.

I'm not surprised. This long after 9/11 and we still aren't controlling who gets into the country. Why should I expect people to do something about spam.

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CrashGordon Chief Captain

JarJarBinks wrote:

personally i dont think its fair that if we do allow free membership i want a refund because i paid money.

and fracly its not fair to me and think if other people want their money back then the owner of Fly away will become bank rupt or worse!

Free membership to the forums only. What is the difference in cost as opposed to anonymous posting????

Did you actually read my original post?

The only way to reduce it is to require (free) registration for the forums, rather than allowing anonymous posting.

People are already allowed to use the forums for free! It is called guest (anonymous) posting.

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CrashGordon Chief Captain

hinch wrote:

it costs $5 to join, if you don't have that to join the best and most active forum...well then...i don't know how to continue this...

The forums cost nothing to post in. That's what all those guest posts are.

Where is everyone getting the idea that I am proposing free membership for the whole site?

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Greekman72 Chief Captain

Maybe i ll be boring by repeating the same thing everytime the spam issue re-births but...Fly Away is Business and flyaway is a manager.He decides one day to earn money from this site.
He has his doors open in order more customers gets in.The more they get in the most chances to sell he has.

Imagine if you have a shop and sell things...If you have your door close with a guard ask for your ID to get in ,would you ever get in?I think that most of times no.
The same happens here.The spams risk is the low price for the open doors...The 90000 members is the profit...

Dont ask me if i find it right or wrong...Its just the reality in my opinion...

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Wing-man First Officer

CrashGordon wrote:

davidmac1 wrote:

I agree with crash, but i think that a petition first, then wait to see what comes of it (not to long!) before a boycott would be the better course of action. Of course there would be the problem of some members refusing to refuse to post on the forum Umm...

True, but those will probably be the folks looking for barnyard animals in FS. 😂 😉

ROFL and when they find the so called barnyard animals 🙄 they can also download this add-on and ship them out in it..........

But, back to the topic. Personally, I dont think the site should have guests full stop, either it be spammers posting as guests or, silly made up names.
I'm aware that there are good guests that contribute good posts and replies to the site, I having nothing against these guests whatsoever.
But, why have guests in the first place ??? if they refuse to pay the $5 membership because as some have said in the past "why pay 5 bucks to download freeware" etc etc etc, then dont allow guests full stop.
At the moment they can........... start new topics, reply to others, post screenshots etc etc, they can basically do the same as members, without the avatar and sig
🙄 then go to Avsim/wherever for their freeware.

NO GUESTS..............NO SPAMMERS

If they can't pay a measly $5 = £2.68 to join, then dont have em. I doubt that spammers will pay $5 and join every time they wanna advertise their garbage. And as for the good guests, get yer hands in yer pockets yer tight buggers.

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hms_endeavour Chief Captain

Greekman72 wrote:

Maybe i ll be boring by repeating the same thing everytime the spam issue re-births but...Fly Away is Business and flyaway is a manager.He decides one day to earn money from this site.
He has his doors open in order more customers gets in.The more they get in the most chances to sell he has.

Imagine if you have a shop and sell things...If you have your door close with a guard ask for your ID to get in ,would you ever get in?I think that most of times no.
The same happens here.The spams risk is the low price for the open doors...The 90000 members is the profit...

Dont ask me if i find it right or wrong...Its just the reality in my opinion...

right now we have 82276 members,wich gives flyaway a nice 411380$+the all the 4500 members of flyaway germany.here we are,drooling about great pc's,when that guy who never checks his pm's buys everything he wants while letting spammers in.Not that he's bad,It's an excellent idea,but still.

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Jake (JarJarBinks) Chief Captain

CrashGordon wrote:

Im done talking about this. It is obvious the idea won't fly, and talking about spam does nothing to stop spam.

wait maybe it will why cant we just lock it from all guests like avsim or simviation or hover conrol all their forums are locked from guests why cant we?

and just for the info i did read your orginal post but maybe i misread it!

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hinch Chief Captain

[quote="Wing-man"][quote="CrashGordon"]

davidmac1 wrote:

If they can't pay a measly $5 = £2.68 to join, then dont have em. I doubt that spammers will pay $5 and join every time they wanna advertise their garbage. And as for the good guests, get yer hands in yer pockets yer tight buggers.

amen, right there.

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CrashGordon Chief Captain

JarJarBinks wrote:

CrashGordon wrote:

Im done talking about this. It is obvious the idea won't fly, and talking about spam does nothing to stop spam.

wait maybe it will why cant we just lock it from all guests like avsim or simviation or hover conrol all their forums are locked from guests why cant we?

and just for the info i did read your orginal post but maybe i misread it!

Okay, I'm calming down now. 😉

Some time ago, I proposed eliminating guest posting. Since there are some guests who make genuine contributions to these forums, that went a little too far.

Then I came up with the two-tiered membership idea. The $5.00 membership gets you the whole ball of wax. Forums, downloads, screenshot galleries. The free membership just got you the forums. It seems that was too hard to understand.

Now I am simply saying, require registration for the forums. That is easy. The forum software makes it easy. If someone registered for the forum abuses it, they can be banned. Spammers don't have the time to keep re-registering.

In a perfect world, registration would require verifying the identity of the member, but this isn't a perfect world, so I don't expect to see that here. I do expect that a site I have paid money to join would do something to eliminate the spam in the forums. Moderating them is like locking the barn door after the horse has been stolen.

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CrashGordon Chief Captain

[quote="hinch"][quote="Wing-man"]

CrashGordon wrote:

davidmac1 wrote:

If they can't pay a measly $5 = £2.68 to join, then dont have em. I doubt that spammers will pay $5 and join every time they wanna advertise their garbage. And as for the good guests, get yer hands in yer pockets yer tight buggers.

amen, right there.

Might I point out that some of those who use the site are juveniles whose parents won't go for the $5.00 fee.

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liam (Liono) Chief Captain

I total 100% agree with Crash on this.

On a side note have you noticed that Flyaway hasn't even replyed to any of these sort of post's in the past. Where was the annocment about the forums going down for a day.

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CrashGordon Chief Captain

Well, at least I got a discussion going. Unfortunately, we can talk about this till our gums bleed and it will be to no avail. 😞

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Jake (JarJarBinks) Chief Captain

yes lets stop im going to end up saying something that will get me banned 😞 Banned

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Insight Chief Captain

[quote="hinch"][quote="Wing-man"]

CrashGordon wrote:

davidmac1 wrote:

If they can't pay a measly $5 = £2.68 to join, then dont have em. I doubt that spammers will pay $5 and join every time they wanna advertise their garbage. And as for the good guests, get yer hands in yer pockets yer tight buggers.

amen, right there.

Even if the spammers did pay the 5 bucks, it would take a month or so for them to get activated 😀

*runs*

j/k

I too Crash have noticed an increase lately - the only way to stop it fully is disallow guest posting.

there is a way to reduce it though

most boards can be modified to require guests to enter a verification code (as I am sure many of you have seen elsewhere) before they can post... this is designed to disable most bots from spamming..

Maybe flyaway could look into this?

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RadarMan Chief Captain

Insight,
We had that when I first came here and asked Flyaway to do away with it.
I have to log-in 15 or more times a day and don't want to sit there and feed in some foolish codes.
All boards get spamers even the ones that have regestering as a reqirement. You just don't get to see them, the mods and admins are too fast.Yes they get less than we do but it's a fact of life as long as you let a board be open and that's one of the pleasures of this board, it's freedom.

Radar

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Jake (JarJarBinks) Chief Captain

but isnt there anything that we can do to stop it?????????

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GermŠn Campopiano (Oberkomando) Captain

Something like asking to become a free member to post and not as a guest?

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CrashGordon Chief Captain

RadarMan wrote:

Insight,
We had that when I first came here and asked Flyaway to do away with it.
I have to log-in 15 or more times a day and don't want to sit there and feed in some foolish codes.
All boards get spamers even the ones that have regestering as a reqirement. You just don't get to see them, the mods and admins are too fast.Yes they get less than we do but it's a fact of life as long as you let a board be open and that's one of the pleasures of this board, it's freedom.

Radar

Freedom, without responsibility is chaos. Freedom to speak unpopular views is fine. Shouting fire in a crowded theater, is not. If this site were located in the US, it would have been shut down since it allows members under 13 years of age and yet porn spam appears on it, however briefly.

My forums don't get spammers. I require registration. I subject new members to moderation until I determine what they are all about. I can take more time than a spammer has to get around the obstacles to spam.

While subjecting new posters to moderation would not be practical on a forum this size, just the requirement to register would markedly reduce the number of spammers here.

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Jake (JarJarBinks) Chief Captain

CrashGordon wrote:

Shouting fire in a crowded theater, is not.

more like shouting bomb on a plane or in an airport

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CrashGordon Chief Captain

JarJarBinks wrote:

CrashGordon wrote:

Shouting fire in a crowded theater, is not.

more like shouting bomb on a plane or in an airport

Or saying, "Hi Jack", to your friend. 😂

Concerned Guest Guest

No other guest has commented but Iíll throw in my 2p/2c worth of rant at the risk of incurring some abuse or it being deleted.

What many of you are proposing is to not allow any postings without payment of a $5.00 membership fee. An insignificant amount of money to most but someone has already done the math on the potential income to the site owner. Your belief is that $5.00 is too much to risk losing by being found to have posted spam.

And what does $5.00 get you Ė the ability to have a nice little picture under your name, the display of a posting count with a rank associated with it and the ability to download free add-ons. Free add-ons that are readily available on other sites, many of which are run by the actual authors of the software.

From what Iíve seen, many of the valuable comments regarding flying, whether FS or real world related, come from guests. Guests who have paid a great deal more than $5.00 to acquire that information yet are willingly passing it on for free. And yet they are grouped together and labeled as mean or tight because they will not pay $5.00 to the owner of this site. It should probably be the other way round and these guests get paid for each post they contribute. I expect there are many people who come here to glean that valuable knowledge.

Now donít tell me that members do not read the excellent posts by those particular guests because they havenít paid. That is their form of payment and it is worth more than $5.00.

To the point under debate.

I visit a number of FS sites, all of which are free but are happy to receive donations. They do require registration to participate in any of the forums, (or is that fora?). One site requires an existing member to Ďsponsorí someone else to get access to the Off Topic Forum. Sponsorship is supported based on the memberís behavior in the other forums. Some do not have an off topic forum. They all have instant registration. They have excellent support. They are well maintained. They very rarely, if ever, get spammed.

So what is it that attracts the spammers here? What causes this site to be the target of spammers?

Possible answers - Having to wait weeks, and in a few cases months, for membership to be acknowledged and registered. Junk responses in general or posts attacking a guest, who was potentially a future member.

People are going to get annoyed when they get no response, get annoyed with waiting for the elusive email, get annoyed with being ignored. Thereís no doubt some of these aggrieved people are going to try to get their own back and get their $5 worth in another way!

If other sites can have excellent support and be spam free without a membership fee, you would expect a site requiring payment, however small, to be a little more responsive and professional towards those who have paid.

Solution: Donít ban guests en masse. Ban those that have paid their $5 but have not received their membership within three days and after sending numerous emails to the site admin with neither acknowledgement nor receipt of their Ďpaid for in good faithí membership.

Real solution: Have two levels of membership. Make registration necessary in all cases for posting and instantly recognized at the time of registration. Have a $5 super/golden/elite (or whatever you want to call it) membership, again recognized at the time of registration and payment, to have access to the download/upload functionality.

It has already been proposed by Crash and not rocket science to implement. Other sites are doing it and have been for a long while. They are mostly spam free.

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liam (Liono) Chief Captain

I totaly agree. I visit here abuot 5 times in the morning and afternoon while at work. I have seen spam on here for about 5hrs before it get's deleted.

One other thing. Why oh why hasn't Flyaway seen this post and responed?

****EDIT*****

At the time of writing this 12:22 BST, there is a post 3 down and is SPAM. Guess what time it was posted 9:35am BST. That's 3hrs and counting.

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Jake (JarJarBinks) Chief Captain

CrashGordon wrote:

JarJarBinks wrote:

CrashGordon wrote:

Shouting fire in a crowded theater, is not.

more like shouting bomb on a plane or in an airport

Or saying, "Hi Jack", to your friend. 😂

yeah or that 😂 😂

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Jonathan (99jolegg) Chief Captain

Liono wrote:

****EDIT*****

At the time of writing this 12:22 BST, there is a post 3 down and is SPAM. Guess what time it was posted 9:35am BST. That's 3hrs and counting.

7 hours and counting Whistle

😉

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davidmac1 First Officer

i've been thinking, why not allow trusted members* like Crash Gordon, Greekman and 99jolegg the ability to delete guest posts, so that if they see spam and there is not a moderator about they can get rid of it quickly. And the moderators could have a list of deleted posts so they would find out if anyone is abusing their privilage

*members who have a certain number of posts and who are mature enough to carry out this job

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RadarMan Chief Captain

In order to do that you have to be given moderator rights and I doubt Flyaway want's to have too large a staff.
He will see this post and think about it...or not.

Radar

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davidmac1 First Officer

ok, i don'[t kmow excactly how these forums work, but it was only a suggestion. I have PM'd him to try and bring his attention to this thread, but i doubt that will work!

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Insight Chief Captain

RadarMan wrote:

Insight,
We had that when I first came here and asked Flyaway to do away with it.
I have to log-in 15 or more times a day and don't want to sit there and feed in some foolish codes.
All boards get spamers even the ones that have regestering as a reqirement. You just don't get to see them, the mods and admins are too fast.Yes they get less than we do but it's a fact of life as long as you let a board be open and that's one of the pleasures of this board, it's freedom.

Radar

Radarman,

I do not mean a verification code to login, but one for guests to enter while posting it will not affect logged in users, spam bots rarely go to the effort of creating an account - waiting for the verification email and then logging in an posting - they are too hard to write and maintain.

I think turning it back on for guest posting only would dramatically reduce the amount of spam we experience.

Why don't we ask flyaway to try it to see if it makes a difference - if it doesn't it doesn't but surely there is no harm in trying?

Log in 15 times a day, where are your cookies? 🙂

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Insight Chief Captain

Having read our Guest's comments I would just like to point out I am not trying to get guest posting abolished here at Flyaway - merely more stringently controlled (by way of verification code - a standard technique for this common issue).

If you don't wish to pay your $5 that is fine by me and I really couldn't care less about your reasons why you don't wish to part with the cash - it is up to you, your decision entirely - just as it is for those of us who chose to part with this small amount of cash.

The fact that Flyaway cares so little about the community he earns so much from that he hasn't even responded to this post (which was started by a long standing and respected member of the community and one whose opinions are always sound [if not grouchy 😀]) is what concerns me.

The issue of spam has been raised time and time again, and it has been ignored time and time again. I run quite a few sites - people request stuff all the time and you cannot respond to all of it. However, if something is requested as frequently as the anti spam measures we are asking for here, I will always investigate it and implement something to at least ease the user's pain if not irradicate it completely.

As our guest rightly points out however - we here have paid a price for downloads that can be obtained elsewhere for nothing. Part of the service I suppose is that it is a very complete library and you don't have to trawl the 4 corners of the universe to find what you are looking for... but... if we have paid for that - surely we have also paid for a secure and safe community to be a part of. One that people's parents are asked to pay for so that new guests that are children themselves can join this friendly community - yet - what will their parents see if they come here to vet the content their children are reading? Almost daily porn spam!

Surely this will discourage new members if nothing else?!

Come on Flyaway - wake up and smell the spam - lets have the following from you:

A: A response to this post
B: The consideration / investigation of a possible solution to our problem
C: Some responsibility towards the younger members of this website

Radarman, If the solution did mean you having to spend 10 seconds longer each time to log in surely it would mean less moderation work for you as there would be a marked reduction in spam?

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RadarMan Chief Captain

I delete about 5-7 a day, yes I've had more than that (top day 14 very rare indeed). When I first log-on there are a few, the others come 1 by 1 and you would be surprised how few "views" some of them have. I've caught many with less than 5 views and quite a few with 1 or 3 and those are usually automatic, done by the spammer.
Most are spammer some are "bots", I've checked and kept temporary records of the IP's just out of curiosity.

And no I do not want to feed in code every time I log-in, it would cut down my visits to less than 5 a day and there would be too many junk posts to go through from the "I have to have a big post count crowd". Yes I look at each and every post.
My cookie is gone once I log-out, to stay logged in all day would mean an extra window open and if you see my name below and want me to respond to something (a PM, spam a question) and I'm just logged in but not at the computer for an hour or more I'll get the "where are you" questions.

Side note: A good practice that I follow is dumping my cookies, cache and history every night and when I rum ad-aware I dump them first so not to get false positive reading, just harmless malware.

If it can be set up for a "guest" to have to enter code but not a member it's a small price for them to pay but I doubt that the board can do that, Flyaway would know if it can be done.

Radar

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Insight Chief Captain

To quote your response to another post in the site bugs and errors board Radarman:

"Life is hard Wink"

🙂

If the board cannot do it natively, there would almost certainly have been a mod developed to support this on the Php Nuke community site as portal sites like this are always subject to spammers be they bots or otherwise.

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RadarMan Chief Captain

Insight wrote:

To quote your response to another post in the site bugs and errors board Radarman:

"Life is hard Wink"

🙂

If the board cannot do it natively, there would almost certainly have been a mod developed to support this on the Php Nuke community site as portal sites like this are always subject to spammers be they bots or otherwise.

Your right "life is hard" but I try not to make that work for me! 😉

He'd have to check the "builders" (members) tech site for that. I'm sure he goes there often for security updates.

Radar

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Insight Chief Captain

yeh they do mods and whatnot on those places that are easily installable.

you became a moderator Wink is that not making work for yourself? 😀

none the less, I would still like to see a reply from the man himself on this topic

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Nick (-Jester-) First Officer

woo another spam topic above. One more reason to take the guest optioin away. How about a member trial or something, like you sign up and will get a free member ship for a week or a certain amount of days before you have to pay or the site will block your IP just a thought.

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Jake (JarJarBinks) Chief Captain

after being away for 2 weeks why are we arguing and they are only words and words can only hurt feelings and nothing more

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CrashGordon Chief Captain

-Jester- wrote:

woo another spam topic above. One more reason to take the guest optioin away. How about a member trial or something, like you sign up and will get a free member ship for a week or a certain amount of days before you have to pay or the site will block your IP just a thought.

That will not work. Most people are in dynamic IP pools. Their IP address is not always the same, so trying to block the IP address is not an option.

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Insight Chief Captain

JarJarBinks wrote:

after being away for 2 weeks why are we arguing and they are only words and words can only hurt feelings and nothing more

they are not only words, they are frequently links to websites with potential viruses on and / or unsuitable material for younger viewers.

We aren't argueing here, we are asking for something to be done by the owner of the site we pay to use, and currently are being ignored sadly.

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liam (Liono) Chief Captain

The thing is I've seen Flyaway on many of times during the day and he must off seen this thread and others that people have made in the past about SPAM.

In my conclusion I personal believe that there should be more moderators (waiting for people to jump down my throat). On some forums that I go on, you have to register (free of course) and they have at least 5 moderator per forum. If this happened here I would say that the spam would at least be cut down to a few hours of being on the forum. Unlike the other day when a thread was SPAM and was visiable for at least 7 hrs.

In 7hrs how many people/kids scanned the forum? If you put FS9 in google, more than likely you will find this site as the first 3 choices. If a child found the site and saw a certain SPAM for ********** (you know what I mean) (s)he is going to click the link and find something they shouldn't be.

When I get into work at 0800 BST I scan the foeums quickly and guess what I come across. I do another scan through at around 1100 BST and it's still there. Then at lunch 1200 BST and in the afternoon as well. I reckon I come across about 6 threads of SPAM a day and that's in 8 hrs.

My rant over and done with.

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Jonathan (99jolegg) Chief Captain

I know what you mean Liono.

I PM'd flyaway asking him for a response via PM or in this post - it wasn't even a ranting PM; but a polite request for an explanation as to his reasoning. I checked my Outbox and he has read it....do I have a response? Of course not.

As for more moderators, it was something that I thought would be a good idea as well (I haven't before this, but the spam is a lot more frequent as of late). I spoke to a member on this matter who suggested that maybe flyaway isn't too keen on giving away power - which is fair enough as long as he is willing to do something about it himself, which he clearly isn't. Very poor management in my opinion.

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hms_endeavour Chief Captain

good luck on getting your pm answered. 🙄

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liam (Liono) Chief Captain

As of 1500 BST the is 17 yes 17 spam posts in the General forum. This is just not on.

IF flyaway had some more moderators he wouldn't be giving up anything as you can limit what forum you can moderate on.

All this SPAM of recent weeks is just getting out of hand. When I came here over 2 yrs ago there wasn't that much SPAM but it has come to a point that a stand by the Flyaway members to do something about it.

If this happen to any country the people would be in uproar agianst the government. The same thing is happening here. The leader isn't listerning to the people who pay him.

last words

THIS IS GETTING OUT OF HAND

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Jake (JarJarBinks) Chief Captain

anyone noticed this latest spammer it is 10:12 and he has put up 3 totally off topic from anything...like 'trojan','didlo', 'hairy finger', and 'FS is gay'

SOMEONE GET THIS GUY OFF

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Jake (JarJarBinks) Chief Captain

JarJarBinks wrote:

anyone noticed this latest spammer it is 10:12 and he has put up 3 totally off topic from anything...like 'trojan','didlo', 'hairy finger', and 'FS is gay'

SOMEONE GET THIS GUY OFF

ok there is about 20!

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Jonathan (99jolegg) Chief Captain

In any other case, I would have thought that this would have been the last straw, where Admin would finally do something about it, but for some reason, it wouldn't surprise me if we still didn't see a response or even a reply from him.

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RadarMan Chief Captain

As soon as I came here, 8:15am my time with the kind help from a member who shall remain nameless I deleted or saved the posts.
Mods cannot be here 24 hours a day, check the bottom of other forums and you won't see mods or admins there all the time.
It's a voluntary job not a paid one.

Radar

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Insight Chief Captain

I think the point now is becoming more about Flyaway's apparent lack of interest in this website unless it directly involves him making money

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