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Crash at Heathrow today

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GoodisonBlue First Officer

http://news.sky.com/skynews/picture_gallery/picture_gallery/0,,30000-1301172,00.html

Sounds like the pilot was a bit of a hero keeping it airborne long enough to clear the carparks and a busy road

Possible complete engine failure?

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Cheeks Chief Captain

Yeah, I saw this on the news. Kudos to the pilot Group Wave Was the 777 the GE or RR powered ones Question

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VegasFlyer Chief Captain

According to the pilots all the power went out and the gear just fell off the aircraft. That's weird! Shocked

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tiger7881 Captain

WOW. Yup thats so wierd. Imagine bein a passanger in that plane Shocked Surprised

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Razgr1z912 Captain

15 with minor injuries no deaths. I saw it on the news Razz All passengers, pilots, and staff got out by the emerg shoots.

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belgeode Chief Captain

HOLY CRAP!!!!!

You all are gonna think me to be completely nuts... but I dreamed this exact same thing a couple nights ago! Only difference is I could not identify the airport or airline. but the same exact thing happened in my dream, and I saw it all. freaky huh?

I am glad they made it (relatively) safely. A 777, this could have gotten REAL BAD real quick!

Someone buy those pilots a drink, and up their pay.

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Cheeks Chief Captain

belgeode wrote:

Someone buy those pilots a drink, and up their pay.

Yes, they well and truely deserve it Wink

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cheezyflier Captain

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tiger7881 Captain

So whose falt was that? pilots of the boeing manufacture? I think boeing.

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CRJCapt Chief Captain

tiger7881 wrote:

So whose falt was that? pilots of the boeing manufacture? I think boeing.

Too early to even speculate. Strange that they lost power to both engines. I think there is more to this story. Here is a news article with more info.
Arrow http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/01/18/boeing.causes/

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cheezyflier Captain

do you see where they talk about the a320 that had a bird strike at
6000 ft asl? what the heck is a song bird doing at 6000 ft? their aint nothin to eat that high! that's kinda strange.

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tiger7881 Captain

Solution >>>>>>>>>>>> Just wait for "Mayday" on TV and they will explain everything. I watch everyday. So interesting.

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belgeode Chief Captain

you see where they were talking about landing flaps too... I have experienced similar in FS9... but if that is the case that is pilot error... and even though everyone walked away from it... he'd be in deep doodoo.

Very curious accident indeed... at least it was not terrorists.

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HardLight Trainee

It had RR engines. Looks lilke there was no response when the autopilot requested power from the engines. I'd find it very suprising if it was a fault with the engines themselves as neither of them responded.

My guess is a fuel system issue.

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Cheeks Chief Captain

HardLight wrote:

It had RR engines. Looks lilke there was no response when the autopilot requested power from the engines. I'd find it very suprising if it was a fault with the engines themselves as neither of them responded.

My guess is a fuel system issue.

Ok cool, thanks for the info Cool

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belgeode Chief Captain

Current speculation is they ran out of fuel.

According to one of the pilots on the USAir virtual site, British Airways is notorious for being stingy with gas.

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Welshflyer Chief Captain

belgeode wrote:

Current speculation is they ran out of fuel.

According to one of the pilots on the USAir virtual site, British Airways is notorious for being stingy with gas.

I don't believe that for one minute, what about having enough fuel to divert to an alternate airport plus 40 minutes extra!

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Welshflyer Chief Captain

VegasFlyer wrote:

According to the pilots all the power went out and the gear just fell off the aircraft. That's weird! Shocked

Hi VF i think you'll find the gear did'nt fall off but was torn off on the grass! It would be a major issue if the pilot lowered the gear and it fell off, and would bring many questions on the BA maintainance dept Shocked !

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Cheeks Chief Captain

Pretty detailed report if you ask me Wink
Arrow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_38

Also

It is being reported that the 138-tonne aircraft is most likely to be a write off

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walesdragon Captain

cheezyflier wrote:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RoqLEdk0tkc

Rofl, what does that have to do with this? o_O

Also, Three cheers to the pilots and crew. Apparently they were very professional in this situation.

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Oberkomando Chief Captain

Unfortunately situation. Feel bad. Sad
But no one killed? Shocked hope not. Confused

" Every manīs work is a portrait of himself"...Anonymous.

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Bartfs First Officer

I heard that ALL systems had failed.. Shocked

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antone First Officer

Well, here's the BBC on the subject:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7208126.stm

I think it seems clear that the a/c had not run out of fuel, and the whole idea that BA is "stingy with gas" is a nonstarter. That just isn't how things work - there are rules about how much fuel a plane must carry. The captain can demand more fuel, but not less than regulatory requirements.

I like the idea of the "gear falling off", though. Can you imagine the scene in the cockpit:

PF: Gear down.
PNF: Gear down....Three green. Oh damn, the gear fell off again! I really do need to have a word with Bob in Maintenance about that! Third time this week![/i]

You can't spell "manslaughter" without "laughter"

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belgeode Chief Captain

still a curious thing... fuel system failure or fuel heater failure sounds logical.

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warlord40 Captain

belgeode wrote:

HOLY CRAP!!!!!

You all are gonna think me to be completely nuts... but I dreamed this exact same thing a couple nights ago! Only difference is I could not identify the airport or airline. but the same exact thing happened in my dream, and I saw it all. freaky huh?

I am glad they made it (relatively) safely. A 777, this could have gotten REAL BAD real quick!

Someone buy those pilots a drink, and up their pay.

You havent seen the movie "final destination" by any chance?

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belgeode Chief Captain

No i have not.. how is it?

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warlord40 Captain

Rent it out if you can - but basicaly, the main actor has a preminition of getting on a 747 with class mates, taking off and then exploding (with a great amount of detail) then he wakes up, the plane has not taken off yet, so he gets off with a bunch of friends who some of which dont believe him, then looking out the airport window they all see the plane explode infront of them, and for the rest of the movie "death" is out to claim each of them in the order that they were to die in, in the aircraft.But really..see the movie! It'll make more sense.

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belgeode Chief Captain

Sounds interesting, I will check it out.

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warlord40 Captain

I know that they made a second movie and possibly a third i think. Let me know what you thought of it after you seen it

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GoodisonBlue First Officer

After the accident, Heathrow has decided to install new landing lights

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