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e4cpltom Trainee

Ok,, Got a new computer and am LOVING the way it handles FS. I have even added a couple planes to the stock ones. I have the weather system up high enough now that it actualy shows the clouds (couldnt do that well on my old machine). What I am interested in now is ground additons, and since I do most of my flight over the U.S. I was wondering if anyone has any coments on what I should be looking at. My main interest so far has been focused on Flight 1's Ultimate Terrain and Ground Environment Xtream or the Just Flight product FScene X.

What I guess I need to know is that because my old machine wouldnt handle these things and I have no idea what is good, are these good or are there better or should I just say screw it and keep the standard ground textures. (I always was disapointed with the rockies being so bland and would like REAL mountains, or at least something that looks better.)

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Mark Hyder (markhyder) Trainee

The ULTIMATE TERRAIN X - USA sound like the best bet.

Flight One Software, in cooperation with Scenery Solutions, is excited to bring you the ultimate in terrain add-ons for FSX...

Ultimate Terrain X - Canada Edition has been designed from the ground up to take advantage of the new technologies in FSX, and provide you with the most superior and complete large terrain environment to date. As always, we use only the highest quality commercial source data in our products.

Ultimate Terrain X will take your FSX terrain environment to new levels not seen before in a PC Flight Simulator.

Roads, Rivers, Streams, Bridges, Landclass, Waterclass, and more is packed into Ultimate Terrain X.

Highways, Roads, Streets

The FSX roads are a big improvement over FS9 (FS2004). However, Ultimate Terrain X takes the roads one step further, by providing all the available road types from the DMTI Spatial commercial data set, instead of just highways and most major roads.

The Ultimate Terrain X road textures are also very high resolution, matching the 1 meter landclass textures currently in FSX. Plus, the Ultimate Terrain X road texture types can be custom configured.

Having improved road textures is nice. But what really make our roads stand out, is the attention to detail, using road encasements and custom ground polygons for the interchange areas. This can make a huge difference in the urban road appearances as you will see.

For many of the roads and highways that crosses a water feature in Ultimate Terrain X, a 3D extrusion bridge is displayed.

If you like the look of the moving road traffic in FSX, you will love the moving traffic in Ultimate Terrain X. Ultimate Terrain X greatly expands the moving traffic coverage areas in FSX.

We even include dark tunnel entrances for those tunnel roads that disappear underground.

Shorelines, Coastlines, Rivers, Streams

Anyone who is familiar with our Ultimate Terrain product for FS9/FS2004, knows that our products use the absolute premium commercial water data available for each of our product regions. This water data is the most accurate and detailed data available at any cost.

In addition to the standard coastline textures in FSX, Ultimate Terrain X takes coastlines to a whole new level, by including higher resolution rocky coastline textures, sandy beaches, concrete piers, freshwater dams, and man-made breakers. The coastline textures blend the edges of the water bodies with the land.

All oceanic coastlines have been classified by hand to give them a more appropriate look.

In the major metropolitan areas, FSX improved the body accuracy and details compared to FS9/FS2004. But outside of the metropolitan areas, there are still major missing water features and/or inaccurately positioned features. Ultimate Terrain X will add detailed water features throughout the entire covered region.

In addition to the quality source data, we have now enhanced our water features by adding more variety to the coastlines. Also, we have provided multiple waterclass options that will change the water color associated with lakes, rivers and oceans.

Ultimate Terrain X also takes advantage of our new "Radial Elevation Theory" algorithm, which allows for nicely channeled rivers that cut right through areas of extreme elevation changes. This new algorithm virtually eliminates the sloping water problems that are common with terrain hugging rivers.

Landclass

Ultimate Terrain X dramatically improves the accuracy of cities in FSX. All metro areas with a population over 100k have accurate landclass based on high resolution satellite images. Smaller city landclass is still based on our proprietary "Synthetic Landclass" generation system, which generates urban landclass based on recent commercial data sources. Both methods provide superior landclass representations of all urban area.

Waterclass

Waterclass options are a unique feature of Ultimate Terrain X that controls the coloring and style of the water features for various locations around the world. Ultimate Terrain enhances the default FSX water by providing 4 different waterclass choices:

* Blue water tint
* Plankton/Algae bloom tint
* Muddy water tint
* Muddy water with Plankton bloom tint.

Water colors can vary dramatically between seasons. And, many users have different opinions on how their water environment should look. So, Ultimate Terrain X gives you the multiple options.

Railroads

Of course railroads are well covered in Ultimate Terrain X. We improve the look of railroads using higher resolution textures, railroad track encasement textures, railyard ground textures, and tunnel entrances.

A 3D bridge object is also placed where many of the railroad tracks cross water.

Night Lighting

If you purchased our previous Ultimate Terrain products, you know that our night lighting is a unique feature in this hobby.

Ultimate Terrain X night lighting consists of points of light that represent things like street lights, intersection lights, and vehicle lights.

In Ultimate Terrain X, the night lighting has been created with three things in mind:

Provide brighter lights against the very bright FSX background.Prevent autogen reduction.Eliminate the occasional "floating light" situation from differing mesh products.

Ground Textures

Ultimate Terrain X includes custom ground textures for specialized areas (note that these are specialized textures and not general texture replacements like our Ground Environment product). These ground textures differ from landclass, because they take on the exact size and shape of the terrain feature in the real world.

In FSX, special ground textures are already used for city parks and golf courses, but in addition to the parks and golf courses, Ultimate Terrain X provides many other ground polygon features that are unique to Ultimate Terrain X.

* Beaches
* Glaciers
* Cemeteries
* Highway Interchanges
* Tunnel Entrances
* Railroad Yards
* Small Islands
* Parking Lots
* Grassy, Forest, or Concrete areas for landmark features.
* Detailed forest ground textures used extensively throughout urban areas.
* Object Repositioning

To make sure that the current custom FSX objects line up with the Ultimate Terrain X scenery, we have repositioned many objects to better align with the Ultimate Terrain X road and water features. This includes things like buildings, ships, docks, and custom bridge objects (i.e. the Golden Gate Bridge).

Ultimate Terrain Setup Tool

We know that a great number of Flight Simulator enthusiasts like to tweak their environments to meet their own personal expectations and needs. As a result, Ultimate Terrain X was designed from the ground up, to provide a near total configurable environment.

Advanced users will marvel at the fact that they can have different textures assigned to nearly every Ultimate Terrain feature. For example, you can change the sizes of things like stream widths, road widths and coastline widths using the new Ultimate Terrain X Setup Tool.

The new setup tool also allows novice users to get up and running quickly and the advanced user to have unprecidented configurability over their Ultimate Terrain environment.

Check Out Ultimate Terrain X in Detail!

Check out our 84 page slideshow, with lots of images and explanations to demonstrate the abundance of features included in the new Ultimate Terrain X series of products. Both downloads are about 9MB.

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System Requirements

* Flight Simulator X
* DVD Drive
* 1.6 Mhz Processor
* 3.6 GB Hard Drive Space
* 1024 RAM
* 256 MB Video Card
* Windows XP / Vista

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art lippel (effieveda) First Officer

After taking the time to read through your hyperbole regarding the product to which, I'm sure you have no affiliation, I found myself interested enough to have a look at the screen shots. Having clicked on the links that you provided, I discovered that I was FORBIDDEN to observe them. What's with that? And were the system requirements a joke? I don't think such a low end computer would even run FSX satisfactorly, much less be able to display all the details provided by the add-on you are "selling". Please don't entice the folks to purchace something they probably can't afford, and then will not be able to see. Are you one of the lost souls from the ACES team? Your message reply certainly rings a bell. Sounds exactly like the bullsh*t that we used to get from the folks at Micro$oft. Shame on you.

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Later ... Art

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Mark Hyder (markhyder) Trainee

effieveda wrote:

After taking the time to read through your hyperbole regarding the product to which, I'm sure you have no affiliation, I found myself interested enough to have a look at the screen shots. Having clicked on the links that you provided, I discovered that I was FORBIDDEN to observe them. What's with that? And were the system requirements a joke? I don't think such a low end computer would even run FSX satisfactorly, much less be able to display all the details provided by the add-on you are "selling". Please don't entice the folks to purchace something they probably can't afford, and then will not be able to see. Are you one of the lost souls from the ACES team? Your message reply certainly rings a bell. Sounds exactly like the bullsh*t that we used to get from the folks at Micro$oft. Shame on you.

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Later ... Art

All I was doing was giving info about the ULTIMATE TERRAIN X and was not making anyone to buy it. The user had a interest in ULTIMATE TERRAIN X and I did research about it and post what I found. I am sorry if I up set you in any way. i found the info from http://secure.simmarket.com/flight-1-europe-ultimate-terrain-x-usa-dvd-edition.phtml I did not know at the time that the pics was not going to to load when I posted them.

Pro Member First Officer
oldsamer First Officer

I've been running ULTIMATE TERRAIN X USA for about a year, it's been reliable.
Saw differences at every field I was familier with in basic FSX. More detail and water features. Notably Mustang beach by Corpus Kristi and City field, New orleans are now surrounded by water. Which is actual since they are built on "reclaimed" land. Place not to vere off the runway!

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art lippel (effieveda) First Officer

Aside from the long dissertation regarding the add-on in question, it still seems that the system as outlined would be insufficient to take full advantage of it. If I recall correctly, those are the specifications Micro$oft suggested for FSX, which, as we all found out, were not nearly adequate to run FSX, much less any sophistcated additional software.

System Requirements

* Flight Simulator X
* DVD Drive
* 1.6 Mhz Processor
* 3.6 GB Hard Drive Space
* 1024 RAM
* 256 MB Video Card
* Windows XP / Vista

The above specs pretty much describe my system, and I know from experience that most, if not all, of the sliders would have to be set to the left, which would render the added scenery useless!

Oldsamer, I would bet that your system far exceeds the above specifications. I'm sure that the addition of Ultimate Terrain would perform just fine on it, and enhance any area that it covers.

Prove me wrong, if you can. Switching over to FS9 solved all the dissapointments I suffered with FSX.

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Regards ... Art

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e4cpltom Trainee

Thanks for getting that info for me markhyder. I recognized it from the website imeadiatly as it is what caught my eye about it.

Oldsamer your input is greatly appreaciated, as your are an actual user.

Anyone else ever try the Just Flight software?

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Mark Hyder (markhyder) Trainee

e4cpltom wrote:

Thanks for getting that info for me markhyder. I recognized it from the website imeadiatly as it is what caught my eye about it.

Oldsamer your input is greatly appreaciated, as your are an actual user.

Anyone else ever try the Just Flight software?

I have trid a Just Flight Demo cd and had there free mags about what addon are on there site, I did brought Just Flight Traffic 2004, not from there web site, But I did got the addon from game.co.uk

I did buy an Concorde addon for 2004, can not remember if that was Just Flight.

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e4cpltom Trainee

thanks again Mark, I also have some other Just Flight products that I am satisfied with.

I must say that I went ahead and got Ground Terrain X this morning and so far am impressed with what I have seen.

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