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RadarMan
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:55 pm 

anonymouse91 wrote:
Can someone tell me if mine is good enough to run FSX on all high settings? I've tried the online game advisor but it has problems with the site and it says it can't detect my hardware properly.

My specs are:
Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz
Geforce 7600GT 256MB
2GB DDR2 RAM
Windows Vista Ultimate (32bit)


No one can run it on the highest setting but you will get a great show with that machine, if you tweak it and be patient while you do it.
Get another gig of ram or more if your going to run vista.

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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:34 pm 

I've got an extra 512MB stick so it'll bump it up to 2.5GB. I'll try tweaking too and see what happens. Also, Vista is working fine with my system as it is now. (I was a beta tester and got a free copy for submitting bugs Smile )
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:55 am 

geez so u have dx10?!?!?!?
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:42 am 

I run an Athlon 64x2 4400+, 2 gig Corsair matched XMS DDR400, 8800GTS, GA-K8N51GMF-9 M/B, Antec truepower Trio 650 watt PSU and I cant get FSX to run anywhere near SMOOTH even at at HIGH settings. My FSP is around 10 if I'm lucky regardless of where I fly (set to achieve 20fps - never makes it I dont think) Game and Monitor is set 1280X1024 res, at 72 Hertz with AA and Trilinear running.
How on earth some people are getting the game to run smoothly with only 3200+ CPU's, 1 Gig DDR and 7600 or 7900 cards is beyond me, unless they are running it at the games default settings of LOW in which case they would be better off sticking with FS2004.

Here's an option for Flight Simmers though - forget FSX and go back to FS2004. Buy add ons through Abacus.com (who specialise in add ons for MS FS2002 - FSX) and you will achieve pretty much the same fancy things as you will buying FSX. Planes with moving flaps, opening doors, stairs, gear that goes up and down etc etc etc, and you can buy Extreme Scenery (with MUCH better resolution and detail than what comes with FSX too even with the FSX photo patch) for the entire world. Essentially you can convert FS2004 into a very good "copy" of FSX without having ALL the techo probs that come with FSX or paying out heaps of dollars to make FSX run yo even 50% of Microsofts claims. Something to consider until Microsoft can sort their you know what out with all the problems that are inherant with FSX.
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:17 am 

guest 12 wrote:
geez so u have dx10?!?!?!?


Yes, but I can't use it because I don't have a DX10 compatible card yet.

wombat457 wrote:
I run an Athlon 64x2 4400+, 2 gig Corsair matched XMS DDR400, 8800GTS, GA-K8N51GMF-9 M/B, Antec truepower Trio 650 watt PSU and I cant get FSX to run anywhere near SMOOTH even at at HIGH settings. My FSP is around 10 if I'm lucky regardless of where I fly (set to achieve 20fps - never makes it I dont think) Game and Monitor is set 1280X1024 res, at 72 Hertz with AA and Trilinear running.
How on earth some people are getting the game to run smoothly with only 3200+ CPU's, 1 Gig DDR and 7600 or 7900 cards is beyond me, unless they are running it at the games default settings of LOW in which case they would be better off sticking with FS2004.


Try medium low settings (mine runs fine on those - Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz, 2GB DDR2 RAM, 7600GT 256MB). If not, maybe try overclocking? And one last question, is your RAM DDR1 or DDR2?
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:58 am 

Wombat: and what happened if you keep same options but lower the resulotion to 1024x768 and turn off AA? Is it playable then?
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:54 am 

Re - changing FSX settings to medium/low

Of course I can change my settings to a lower level and the Sim will play smoothly, but your obviously missing my point here I think. Playing FSX on medium/low only gives the same or similar graphics and detail as playing FS2004 on high (its max) as such you don't make any gains by buying FSX. Hence my inclussion of the Abacus addons etc. The whole point of buying a new or updated program is to obtain the improvements, whatever they be, and be able to play/use the program with those improvements. That doesn't seem to be able to be done with FSX unless you are prepared to spend lots of dollars on hardware upgrades to accomodate the sim.

Re - turning off AA and using a lower screen resolution

Turning AA off as well as not using Bilineal or trilineal filtering does improve the games performance. Just as an example of that my 3DMark06 score without AA or filtering and with a screen resolution of 1280 x 1024 achived a score of 7400, and frames rate of between 28.242 and 27.919 fsp (Graphics) and fsp's of 31.712 and 37.449 (HDR) with AA and Bilineal filtering on my score dropped to a poor 6134 and fsp's of no better than 24.000 fps.

In short, I now run it at 1280 x 1024 with no AA or filtering and with a refresh rate of 70hertz. With those settings, I can run the game reletively soothly, with minimal graphics hesitation, on medium/high.

I should point out that to achieve that result I have had to spend around $1500 on hardware upgrades. I now ask myself if it was really worth it. Personally, I dont think it was.
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:03 am 

anonymouse91 wrote:
I've got an extra 512MB stick so it'll bump it up to 2.5GB. I'll try tweaking too and see what happens. Also, Vista is working fine with my system as it is now. (I was a beta tester and got a free copy for submitting bugs Smile )


You certainly have the CPU for the sim and the experts (Microsoft Product Techs) claim that 2 gig of DDR is enough to run it anymore wont give you any noticable improvements.

You really need to upgrade your Vid Card if you want to run FSX on High or Med/Hi. The 7600GT wont do it, which is the reason I went from a 7600 GS to an 8800 GTS and I still cant run FSX (without problems) at High. Probably not what you wanted to hear, but regretably that is the nature of FSX.

Wombat457

PS - TOTALLY ignore the minimum requirements for FSX too - you'd be lucky if the program even started if you only had them, so don't do what most people have done and used them as a "benchmark" for playing FSX
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:32 am 

I have upgraded my system from an old Dell Dimension 3000 (1GB DDR, 80GB HDD, Onboard Graphics, 2.8GHz P4 with Win XP) to this new one (Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz, 500GB HDD, 2GB DDR2, 7600GT 256MB, Windows Vista) recently (The main reason, to run FSX as I knew my old system couldn't handle it). I know that I wouldn't get the best performance with the parts I have selected, but I am trying to save money to get a DX10 card. I was just recommended by some people to get a 7600GT as its cheap and quite good.

Just a quick question, is your RAM DDR1 or DDR2?
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:37 am 

anonymouse91 wrote:
I have upgraded my system from an old Dell Dimension 3000 (1GB DDR, 80GB HDD, Onboard Graphics, 2.8GHz P4 with Win XP) to this new one (Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz, 500GB HDD, 2GB DDR2, 7600GT 256MB, Windows Vista) recently (The main reason, to run FSX as I knew my old system couldn't handle it). I know that I wouldn't get the best performance with the parts I have selected, but I am trying to save money to get a DX10 card. I was just recommended by some people to get a 7600GT as its cheap and quite good.

Just a quick question, is your RAM DDR1 or DDR2?


First thing - you have a top system and the 7600GT is a very good card, no question about that. Just not quite good enough to get better than average performance from FSX - that doesnt mean it isnt a top card though, just that FSX is power hungry beyond belief. You got good advice and made a good choice with the 7600GT to begin with though. The only consideration that you now have to make is how much you want to pay for a better card in the future. So far as I am aware, the GF 8800 GTS and GTX are the only two cards currently available designed for DX10.

As for my RAM, I run 2 X matched CMX1024-3200C2 modules (Corsair XMS modules) I am not 100% certain but believe they are dual 128 DDR2 modules.
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:53 pm 

I've just had a look and your RAM appears to be DDR1. That could affect FSX's performance but the RAM is still very fast. I would have recommended you to get some DDR2 RAM as you can get higher speeds and could improve FSX but your motherboard appears to only support DDR1. So, I think to try and get improved performance, follow some of the tweaking tips in the FSX forum and note down, one by one, what you do. Then, you'll know what helps and what doesn't.[/quote]
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:32 pm 

anonymouse91 wrote:
I've just had a look and your RAM appears to be DDR1. That could affect FSX's performance but the RAM is still very fast. I would have recommended you to get some DDR2 RAM as you can get higher speeds and could improve FSX but your motherboard appears to only support DDR1. So, I think to try and get improved performance, follow some of the tweaking tips in the FSX forum and note down, one by one, what you do. Then, you'll know what helps and what doesn't.
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Okay, thanks I wasnt sure if it was DDR1 or DDR2, but when alls said and done, when you are running 2 gig of fast (very fast) DDR whether it is DDR1 or 2 becomes a little insignificant where FSX is concerned. Also remember that I run an 8800GTS with its own dedicated graphics processor and a little bit of its own DDR too - 640 MB of GDDR3 SDRAM. Kinda makes up for any differences between DDR1 and 2 at the 2gig level.

I am not sure what you mean by "tweaking". If you mean overclocking, then forget it - I will not overclock anything for any reason. If you are talking about AA, AF etc settings then maybe you should read one of my earlier responses regarding AA and AF and its effects on FPS. The majority of peoples complaints about FSX is there inability to play it smoothly without problems at a reasonable game setting. Smoothness of the game depends up on FPS so the higher the FPS the better the game will run. Start adjusting things that effect the FPS (ie lower it) then all you are doing is compounding the problem. Obviously you need decent gear to attain a decent FPS.

Anyway, your initial question was whether your system would run FSX at the HIGH game setting. The simple answer is no, and the reason for that is primarily your current Graphics Card. That being said though, and as Radar Man clearly and rightfully stated in his repsonse - no one can run FSX at the HIGH level, meaning without loosing game quality or game performance, uinless of course you have more money than sense and can afford to spend huge amounts building a system specifically for FSX, and I dont think ANY game is worth that. Get yourself an 8800GTS or GTX and that coupled with your other hardware, you should go close to being able to run it on HIGH with only minimal problems.
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:53 pm 

Hi all...what is the trick to getting the on board map to work during online play. I find that it works fine when playing off line. Thanks BJ
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:06 pm 

ATHLON 64
2GIG RAM
6800GT

Leave fsx on the shelf FS9 is much more fun for a couple of years yet unless you want to keep throwing money at it.Water is great but fast fs9 with addons and lots of clouds is an excellent flying experience. I gave it a good try but have swiped it off. Flying should be fun
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:15 am 

What a great piece of advice. You know, it really makes perfect sense that Microsoft would come out with a FS that would eat processor speed at a rate to boggle the mind of a super computer. Look at all the money it's going to cost to run this monster.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:56 am 

hmmmm just thought but i heard that having a onboard sound card can REALLY drain your performance. once i get windows loaded to my computer wich i bought. i will compare framerates and see if having a upgraded soundcard makes a diference at all.
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:46 am 

I recently read a review of FSX in PC Gamer, and they made it sound like you won't get more than 15 or 20 FPS even on top of the line systems. I just bought an new computer, and was wondering if it is worth it to spend $70 on this thing. This is my new system:

Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E6700
2 GB RAM
2 8800 GTX in SLI mode
7.1 3D Surround Sound Onboard

Should I be able to max out all the settings even with this system, or will I have to wait for Vista and DX 10 and all that crazy stuff?
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:33 am 

Anonymous wrote:
I recently read a review of FSX in PC Gamer, and they made it sound like you won't get more than 15 or 20 FPS even on top of the line systems. I just bought an new computer, and was wondering if it is worth it to spend $70 on this thing. This is my new system:

Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E6700
2 GB RAM
2 8800 GTX in SLI mode
7.1 3D Surround Sound Onboard

Should I be able to max out all the settings even with this system, or will I have to wait for Vista and DX 10 and all that crazy stuff?


No computer today will max out FSX!

You will with that rig get a fantastic sim, I have a similar setup.
When Vista comes out the DX 10 cards will be worth it.

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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:54 am 

your system should run the game at high settings maybe not full thought but definately above average
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:23 pm 

I joined a Dell Forum today and let me start by saying I don't know what I am talking about!
I briefly was looking at the Overclocking/Modding subject line and it seems that you can shut down all/part of your Start Up programs so that FSX will run faster. Is this true? I found www.processlibrary.com by Uniblue and there is a Registry Booster tab. What does a Registry Booster do?
Oh, I went through http://startup.iamnotageek.com/ to find that Uniblue thing.
I guess I am asking, can I get FSX to run faster if I download their program?
See I told you that I don't know what I am talking about!
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:09 pm 

The fewer the programs that run in the background the more power resources are available for the flight sim.
Shut down as many as possible.
I can't speak about Dell but that's the story.

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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:03 am 

Maybe this'll work....

My system is among the top 4% scanned by the Game Advisor. Here is my setup at a glance:

And I am about to kick the processor up to a Dual Core, and switch from 2 GB to 4Gb...... Cool
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:34 pm 

i have a:

core 2 duo e6600
1gb ram
7900gto

same question as everyone else will it run??
and what frame rates can i get??
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:21 pm 

guest11111 wrote:
i have a:

core 2 duo e6600
1gb ram
7900gto

same question as everyone else will it run??
and what frame rates can i get??


Don't look at FPS in FSX.
I have the Core2Duo 6700.
4 gigs DDR2 ram.
(2X)ATI Radeon X1950 CrossFire - 512 MB.

And I max out the scenery window and some other slides get 10-15 FPS and it's smooth as silk.
Either something isn't right with the way the FPS is shown or they fixed the scenery so it won't hit as bad as FS9.

If you are going to get Vista get 2 more gigs of ram.

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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:27 pm 

Rolling Eyes

I hate to bore you experts further,

but i have the following spec on my PC and to be honest the sim is Crap,

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 2009MHz
Display Card
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS 256meg
Memory
1024MB

unless ihave it set on sparce in the scenery it locks up, i would have thought a 256 meg graphics card PCI express 16 bus

It is so slow it is unbelievable, could it be only 1 gig of DDR ram that is the problem ?

Thank for the help

Matt
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:05 am 

Hey Everyone, im new here and considering buying FSX but after all the netagive posts... i dont even think my new rig can handle FSX, which pisses me off but how do you think my rig will run with FSX?

Intel Core 2 Quad Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 3.0GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache .
Corsair DHX Dominator 4GB DDR2 PC2 8500 (1066FSB)
Samsung Spinpoint 500GB SATA 3.0GB/s 16MB Cache HDD.
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Platinum 7.1 Channels.
(SLI) 2X GeForce 7600GS 512MB Video Cards.
Westinghouse 37" Monitor (1920 X 1080p)
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:31 am 

Uzername wrote:
Hey Everyone, im new here and considering buying FSX but after all the netagive posts... i dont even think my new rig can handle FSX, which pisses me off but how do you think my rig will run with FSX?

Intel Core 2 Quad Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 3.0GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache .
Corsair DHX Dominator 4GB DDR2 PC2 8500 (1066FSB)
Samsung Spinpoint 500GB SATA 3.0GB/s 16MB Cache HDD.
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Platinum 7.1 Channels.
(SLI) 2X GeForce 7600GS 512MB Video Cards.
Westinghouse 37" Monitor (1920 X 1080p)


Not a problem!!

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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:19 am 

mspot72 wrote:
Rolling Eyes

I hate to bore you experts further,

but i have the following spec on my PC and to be honest the sim is Crap,

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 2009MHz
Display Card
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS 256meg
Memory
1024MB

unless ihave it set on sparce in the scenery it locks up, i would have thought a 256 meg graphics card PCI express 16 bus

It is so slow it is unbelievable, could it be only 1 gig of DDR ram that is the problem ?

Thank for the help

Matt


Yes...... it is.
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:46 am 

Hello all

After playing FS9 for a few years i thought it was time to upgrade to FSX, installed it last night and not impressed at all as my PC cannot handle it even on medium settings. After reading through here for the past few hours i realise it is now time for a serious PC upgrade. I am planning to upgrade to the following and would welcome some views on the below spec as half of it i don't understand!!!!

Intel CoreTM 2 Extreme Processor Quad-Core QX6700 (2.66GHz, 8MB L2 Cache, 1066MHz FSB)

NVIDIA nForceŽ 590 SLITM Chipset for Intel (D)

4GB8 Dual-Channel DDR27 SDRAM (667MHz, 2 or 4 DIMMs)

Dual 768 MB NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX, 768 MB graphics cards

Sound Blaster X-FiTM XtremeMusic (D)

AGEIAŽ PhysXTM physics accelerator

750GB5 Single Serial ATA Hard Drive


Would this seriously help with the frame rate and running a higher level of graphics ? Also the physics accelerator is an optional extra would these make a worthwhile difference ?

Sorry for all the questions Shocked
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:22 pm 

Kevin_c329 wrote:
Hello all

After playing FS9 for a few years i thought it was time to upgrade to FSX, installed it last night and not impressed at all as my PC cannot handle it even on medium settings. After reading through here for the past few hours i realise it is now time for a serious PC upgrade. I am planning to upgrade to the following and would welcome some views on the below spec as half of it i don't understand!!!!

Intel CoreTM 2 Extreme Processor Quad-Core QX6700 (2.66GHz, 8MB L2 Cache, 1066MHz FSB)

NVIDIA nForceŽ 590 SLITM Chipset for Intel (D)

4GB8 Dual-Channel DDR27 SDRAM (667MHz, 2 or 4 DIMMs)

Dual 768 MB NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX, 768 MB graphics cards

Sound Blaster X-FiTM XtremeMusic (D)

AGEIAŽ PhysXTM physics accelerator

750GB5 Single Serial ATA Hard Drive


Would this seriously help with the frame rate and running a higher level of graphics ? Also the physics accelerator is an optional extra would these make a worthwhile difference ?

Sorry for all the questions Shocked


Excellent.
It won't use the SLI or Quad for now but we hope it will later or the next version will.
That card will be perfect for DX 10, when it comes out, high price to pay now when it hasn't got DX 10 to run.
The physics accelerator is not worth the $ but get a power supply of 750w major brand or better, a 1000w is not excessive.

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