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pearlygatesuk
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:47 pm 

Anybody know how using this program you can create STAR's and SID's for airports not actually covered by the program?
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Solotwo
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:51 pm 

Anyone have a site that explains what the heck STAR's and SID's are and how to use them in FS? Dunno how it would work if you're flying IFR and they tell you how to land.
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RadarMan
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:21 pm 

Solotwo wrote:
Anyone have a site that explains what the heck STAR's and SID's are and how to use them in FS? Dunno how it would work if you're flying IFR and they tell you how to land.


Here is the story on it.

Read http://www.navdata.at/php/sidstar/sidstar.php

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CRJCapt
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:42 pm 

SID
Chapter 2-17 page 17 of pdf file of handbook below.

STAR
Chapter 4-14 Page 14 of pdf file(Bottom RH side) of handbook below.
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/instrument_procedures_handbook/


Download US charts:
http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_tpp
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Solotwo
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:15 am 

So how would you go about using these in FS flying IFR? Especially when you're on approach and ATC is telling you how to fly in. Thats what confuses me.
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:30 am 

SID's and STARS are part of your route of flight. ATC does not(normally) tell you to fly a SID or a STAR. They are abbreviated arrival and departure routes/instructions. You file them as part of your IFR flight plan. They can be entered into the FMC route of flight. This is not simple stuff. The handbook that I've given you explains in detail what they are.Smile
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Solotwo
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:36 am 

Well my Pilatus doesn't have an FMC so I guess I'll wait till I upgrade again to something that does. I just want to make everything I do in this game as realistic as I can.
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Solotwo
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:44 am 

Thanks for those links, its really helping me figure them out. Maybe I'll even try them with out a FMC. Smile
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Flyaway
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:54 am 

More info on SimpleFMC here:
http://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/3156/fs2004-simplefmc/
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http://flyawaysimulation.com/


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CaptDennison
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:17 pm 

Solostwo--------

If you are flying in game using the ATC- forget about SID and STARS---the IN GAME ATC is useless for this

However-you can fly correct approaches with ATC off-in game by using the GPS

Simply get the STAR you want to fly for approach and Manually enter the inbound point as you go along the route--the A/C needs to be on autopilot set to GPS NAV..
same for SIDS--on approach to do it right-once you are at the correct end point of the STAR-then you need to get the approach plate for the runway you want to land on--and enter it as you go into the GPS-being sure to reset altitudes along the way
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CaptDennison
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:20 pm 

Solostwo--------

If you are flying in game using the ATC- forget about SID and STARS---the IN GAME ATC is useless for this

However-you can fly correct approaches with ATC off-in game by using the GPS

Simply get the STAR you want to fly for approach and Manually enter the inbound point as you go along the route--the A/C needs to be on autopilot set to GPS NAV..
same for SIDS--on approach to do it right-once you are at the correct end point of the STAR-then you need to get the approach plate for the runway you want to land on--and enter it as you go into the GPS-being sure to reset altitudes along the way
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