A good idea to improve flights

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Kareem El-Sadi (crosscheck9) Captain
Joined: Oct 07, 2005 Posts: 804
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Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:08 pm

Well, as you all know, there are many charts required for a single flight. All sorts of papers are required to complete one flight, and they have to be sorted in binders. You have to use many papers and waste all that ink, etc. etc. I was thinking, what if, on the reverse side of the tray table, there was a little touchscreen database, where you could access all sorts of charts, instead of filing through all these papers. Has it been done before? I wonder, if not, I should think about it a litte harder, and maybe even patent it

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Michael Judah (compilots) Trainee
Joined: Mar 22, 2003 Posts: 33 Location: ComPilots Land
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Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:00 pm

This is available but it has not been certified for use!

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CRJCapt Chief Captain
Joined: Sep 12, 2005 Posts: 3724 Location: Ohio,USA
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Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:21 pm

There is a new charting feature that is starting in Commercial and Military aviation called the Electronic Flight Bag. It features an integrated touch sensitive display unit that electronically displays chart,weather data and other flight paperwork. There is a form of this available for general aviation called JeppView. You have to buy a notebook computer or a special viewer for cockpit use. All the charts are on DVD. It is quite expensive for now but in the future it will become more affordable. 🙂

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Bindolaf Captain
Joined: Jun 02, 2004 Posts: 626
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Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:33 pm

I love the idea, but if I were a pilot I would always have the paper charts with me. I mean it's great to have charts, METAR, fuel calculation, conversions etc in one small package, but I would hate it if the thing malfunctioned, the batteries died or it just decided it was time to display the blue screen of death...

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CRJCapt Chief Captain
Joined: Sep 12, 2005 Posts: 3724 Location: Ohio,USA
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Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:14 pm

I agree. I guess that's why it's starting with the organizations that have the most backup systems, resources and money to pull it off with less risk. It will have to be well proven before I rely entirely on it. I'm old school, I don't trust technology. 🙂

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CrashGordon Chief Captain
Joined: Jun 20, 2005 Posts: 3821
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Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:10 pm

I attempted to try something for FS since approach, departure and airport diagrams are available in PDF format on the FAA site.

I wanted to load them into my Palm T|X. It turns out that the FAA's PDFs are not totally PDF standard-compliant, so that rendering them on the Palm is a bit illegible.

I contacted dataviz, whose software I'm using to view the PDFs in the Palm. They were able to reproduce the problem, but so far don't have a solution. I'm sure I'll get nowhere very quickly if I tell the FAA their PDFs are improperly created. 🙄

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