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Matthew Shope (mypilot) Chief Captain

Is the 767-200 considered a "Heavy" aircraft?

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michlin First Officer

I do not believe so, especially when compared to the Boeing 747 or 777

Don Wood Guest

"Heavy" is not a comparative term. It is a call sign addition (i.e., "United 1450 Heavy") used to alert ATC that an aircraft has a gross takeoff weight greater than 255,000 pounds in the USA and greater than 300,000 pounds in some other parts of the world. This is important because of greater ATC separation minimums for heavy aircraft than for lighter ones.

Some of the aircraft capable of carrying the designation "Heavy" are the Boeing 707, 747, 757,767, 777; Airbus A310, A330, A340; the L-1011; DC-8, DC-10, and the MD11.

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michlin First Officer

Don, very interesting. Good info. I wasn't even close.

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Matthew Shope (mypilot) Chief Captain

Don Wood wrote:

"Heavy" is not a comparative term. It is a call sign addition (i.e., "United 1450 Heavy") used to alert ATC that an aircraft has a gross takeoff weight greater than 255,000 pounds in the USA and greater than 300,000 pounds in some other parts of the world. This is important because of greater ATC separation minimums for heavy aircraft than for lighter ones.

Some of the aircraft capable of carrying the designation "Heavy" are the Boeing 707, 747, 757,767, 777; Airbus A310, A330, A340; the L-1011; DC-8, DC-10, and the MD11.

I didn't think the 757 could be considered one. So it doesn't depend on the aircraft, it depends on the weight of the aircraft?

Don Wood Guest

I'm not an expert on which aircraft sometimes use the "heavy" designation and which do not. I took the list in my previous post from an FAA circular. Not all aircraft that can be "heavy" are for every flight. Depending on passenger, freight, and fuels loads, some may be "heavy" for one flight and not for another. I suspect the 757 may be one of these.

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PH First Officer

Having spent a bit of time on the 757 I will add that the reason the 757 can use heavy is because of wake turbulence....masses of it! For this reason it can be classed as heavy not due to climb characteristcs etc but due to the WT it creates recommended spacing is as per heavy ac. There are some 757's that are over the 255k limit which makes them heavies anyway this is due to galley configs.

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