Runway landing lights question

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acepilot32 Captain

if you were landing in rl what about the landing lights? i mean are they in the ground? do they ever break? can anyone answere these questions i have no other way of explaining this Fear

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Drew B (belgeode) Chief Captain

huh?

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VegasFlyer Chief Captain

acepilot32 wrote:

if you were landing in rl what about the landing lights? i mean are they in the ground? do they ever break? can anyone answere these questions i have no other way of explaining this Fear

What is rl? 😕

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Drew B (belgeode) Chief Captain

Now that Iam sober lemme take a crack at this...

btw vegas rl=real life.

I think Ace means if while landing, do aircraft ever break the actual landing lights on the runway.

I wanna say they are actually built into the runway and I would hope that the lens cover is tough enough to withstand a several ton aircraft smacking down on it... but I am sure some break from time to time.

But let's not speculate, let's ask Wikipedia!!

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History

The first runway lighting appeared in 1930 at Cleveland Municipal Airport (now known as Cleveland Hopkins International Airport) in Cleveland, Ohio.

Technical specifications

Runway lighting is used at airports which allow night landings. Seen from the air, runway lights form an outline of the runway. A particular runway may have some or all of the following.

* Runway End Identification Lights (REIL) Unidirectional (facing approach direction) or omnidirectional pair of synchronized flashing lights installed at the runway threshold, one on each side.
* Runway end lights A pair of four lights on each side of the runway On precision instrument runways, these lights extend along the full width of the runway. These lights show green when viewed by approaching aircraft and red when seen from the runway.
* Runway Edge Lights White elevated run the length of the runway on either side. On precision instrument runways, the edge-lighting becomes yellow in the last 2,000 ft (610 m) of the runway. Taxiways are differentiated by being bordered by blue lights, or by having green centre lights, depending on the width of the taxiway, and the complexity of the taxi pattern.
* Runway Centerline Lighting System (RCLS) Lights embedded into surface of the runway at 50 ft (15 m) intervals along the runway centerline on some precision instrument runways. White except last 3,000 ft (914 m), alternate white and red for next 2,000 ft (610 m) and red for last 1,000 ft (305 m).

* Touchdown Zone Lights (TDZL) This consists of rows of white light bars (with three in each row) on either side of the centerline over the first 3,000 ft (914 m) (or to the midpoint, whichever is less) of the runway.
* Taxiway Centerline Lead-Off Lights Installed along lead-off markings, alternate green and yellow lights embedded into runway pavement. It starts with green light about runway centerline to the position of first centerline light beyond holding position on taxiway.
* Taxiway Centerline Lead-On Lights Installed same way as Taxiway centerline Lead-Off Lights.
* Land and Hold Short Lights A row of white pulsating lights installed across the runway to indicate hold short position on some runways which are facilitating LAHSO operations.
* Approach Lighting System or ALS, is a lighting system installed on the approach end of an airport runway and consists of a series of lightbars, strobe lights, or a combination of the two that extends outward from the runway end.

According to Transport Canada's regulations, the runway-edge lighting must be visible for at least 2 miles (3 kilometres). Additionally, a new system of advisory lighting, Runway Status Lights, is currently being tested in the United States.

The edge lights must be arranged such that:

* the minimum distance between lines is 75 ft (23 m), and maximum is 200 ft (61 m);
* the maximum distance between lights within each line is 200 ft (61 m);
* the minimum length of parallel lines is 1,400 ft (427 m);
* the minimum number of lights in the line is 8.[1]

Control of Lighting System Typically the lights are controlled by a control tower, a Flight Service Station or another designated authority. Some airports/airfields (particularly uncontrolled ones) are equipped with Pilot Controlled Lighting, so that pilots can temporarily turn on the lights when the relevant authority is not available. This avoids the need for automatic systems or staff to turn the lights on at night or in other low visibility situations. This also avoids the cost of having the lighting system on for extended periods. Smaller airports may not have lighted runways or runway markings. Particularly at private airfields for light planes, there may be nothing more than a windsock beside a landing strip.

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VegasFlyer Chief Captain

I guess that answers the question Ace. 😉

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acepilot32 Captain

thanks alot Bel

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Tailhook Chief Captain

Nice piece of research and presentation Bel - henceforward you shall be addressed as Emeritus 😀

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Welshflyer Captain

Now that's how to answer a question 😀 !

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Chris Morris (morris91) Captain

Yer i always wondered that aswell, but just never asked

That was like a history lession for me 😂

"Well you learn something new everyday don't you" 😀

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Drew B (belgeode) Chief Captain

Glad I could help... I was curious also actually... haha

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CRJCapt Chief Captain

👏 Nice job belgeode.

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