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stylz67 Trainee

Every free aircraft I have downloaded from any site, functions perfectly, gauges and panels look fine, outside appearance is good, and view from "Cockpit" is fine.

Whenever I switch to "Virtual Cockpit", for the aircraft which have that feature, I see correct reflections on the cockpit interior glass, but the interior glass itself is olive green in color, and I can't see out.

Any ideas of what's going wrong? I have noticed that any purchased aircraft do not have this problem, and SOME free aircraft which the creator set up with an auto-install tend to work properly.

Please help!!!

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Tailhook Chief Captain

Welcome to the forums stylz67 Cheers!

Ok, the thing that jumps at me is this:

..and SOME free aircraft which the creator set up with an auto-install tend to work properly.

The presence or absence of an auto-install is definitely not the issue.

You also mention that:

..purchased aircraft do not have this problem..

As you haven't divulged your system specs and/or add-ons such as SP2 or Acceleration, or the aircraft in question, I'm speculating that the ones that work might possibly have been created expressly for FSX, whereas those which don't work are a mere upgrade to FSX from a previous version of Microsoft FS.

I would suggest you compare the a/c that work with the ones that don't by looking into the individual Aircraft folder, next open the Textures folder and find out what the file format of the files inside that folder is.
If the file format is .bmp -- that means the aircraft was NOT expressly created for FSX but is simply an update.
The a/c created expressly for FSX will have .dds files in the Texture folders. This may well make all the difference. To eliminate this as the culprit, please have a look.
Farther, give us as much info as you can re your system specs and add-ons.

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Llain First Officer

Hi i have the same problem i first notice this after i had install Edinburgh scenery from UK2000, but it was only with some addons and it was only when it was raining. It happens with Wilco's 737 upgrade to FSX and some of the planes from Flying Club X not all. I have only noticed this at the Edinburgh scenery,but i don't think it is the scenery that is the problem i will try it at other airports with it raining.
I am runing fsx with Acceleration on Vista an 8800gt 640mb card. DX9 not DX10

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stylz67 Trainee

Okay, there might be the problem with the textures files. I did check and the ones with the canopy problem ARE all bitmap files, not .ddl.

As for some specs, I realllly doubt it's my system with the problem...

SP2 for Win XP Pro installed
SP2 for FSX is installed
Direct X 10
and the "rain fix" for the canopy, from Microsoft is installed

2 qty. - 3.2GB Xeon dual processors
8 Gig of RAM
1100 WATT power supply
3 video cards - Processors overclocked at 620 MHz, Graphics Memory overclocked at 795 MHz, 512MB of GDDR3.

Yes, if I include the built in video of my motherboard, I CAN run 7 monitors at once. :o) Is there really such a thing as overkill when it comes to good flight simming??? :)

To give an example of aircraft showing this problem, I downloaded from this site, the F-16 Tiger Meet. As I said, everything functions perfectly, except trying to see out of the canpoy while in "virtual cockpit".

Thanks again for all your help.

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stylz67 Trainee

I did just discover something new to add to info. I previously downloaded from this site, FSX/FS2004 Republic F-84G Tunderjet Pack. It does an auto download, the textures files are bitmap, and it functions correctly. I know that using auto download or not, does not have anything to do with the problem at hand, but makes me wonder if I'm manually dropping one wrong file somewhere?

Thanks again everyone, for your help.

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Tailhook Chief Captain

I've been dragging my feet replying stylz67 in the hope that some of the more knowledgeable members might drop in and rescue us.

Is there really such a thing as overkill when it comes to good flight simming??? Smile

Man, you're soooo showing off and I envy you BUT... yes, there's always a but:

I notice that you're running FSX under Win XP and then you mention Direct X 10.
Win XP does NOT support DX10. This 'could' be the problem, so let's make sure that it isn't before we try something else. I think that you have an Option in FSX where you can disable DX10 -- those who have FSX installed will know more about this.

You know, Llain's post above yours is an interesting one and is not to be ignored. I quote from his post:

"I am runing fsx with Acceleration on Vista an 8800gt 640mb card. DX9 not DX10"

Despite his OS being Vista, his 8800Gt card doesn't support DX10 hence his reminder.

Until some more of the FSX specialists come along, you might as well read this thread: https://forum.flyawaysimulation.com/forum/topic/31845/preveiw-dx10/ it cannot harm.

"I previously downloaded from this site, FSX/FS2004 Republic F-84G Tunderjet Pack. It does an auto download, the textures files are bitmap, and it functions correctly. "

Weird, I simply don't know the answer. I'm calculating and guessing, but that won't help... Michael... where are you? Help!

PS: "... but makes me wonder if I'm manually dropping one wrong file somewhere? " Well, that's always a possibility but... haha.. I don't think so. Give us an example such as folder- or file name and where you're putting it.

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Llain First Officer

Hi Tailhook I have a nvadia 8800gt that does support DX10 but i choose to run FSX under DX9 as i find DX10 has texture problems with addon products.
If you run FSX on XP even if you have a DX10 card installed, you will not see the option for preview dx10, so it is impossible to run dx10 only vista supports it.

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Tailhook Chief Captain

Llain wrote:

Hi Tailhook I have a nvadia 8800gt that does support DX10 but i choose to run FSX under DX9 as i find DX10 has texture problems with addon products.
If you run FSX on XP even if you have a DX10 card installed, you will not see the option for preview dx10, so it is impossible to run dx10 only vista supports it.

Oops! My apologies Llain, that was sloppy of me, there are too many "X"-es running around in my head.
Your second statement re the "option for preview dx10" is also news to me. That would imply that stylz67 doesn't have to worry about switching off the option at all. Any positive developments at your end?

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Luke (warlord40) Captain

there are too many "X"-es running around in my head

Thats my fault!

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stylz67 Trainee

I want to thank everyone for their ideas and thots. I did finally figure out how to fix it.

The "rain effects fix" from microsoft DOES work on add-ons which have a problem with the windows blanking out at certain altitudes when rain is there. What I discovered, if I revert BACK to the original rain files, the planes which had green opaque windows, worked again! Of course, the downside, the other add-ons quit working once again, themselves.

So, here's my fix which worked for every aircraft with these problems... rain or shine weather. I used the microsoft rain fix file, to repair the common rain/ window problem on some add-on aircraft. THEN, I took my copied and saved original rain files... all of them located in effects AND textures, and added them into Microsoft Flight Simulator X/ SimObjects/ Airplanes/ (and the individual effected aircraft file only).

If the aircraft file did not have an effects folder, I made one. I dropped the original FSX rain effects into the effects folder, and the original FSX rain textures into the textures folder.

Don't know if this was the most direct approach to doing this, but it works flawlessly, and all aircraft canopy/ windows look perfect now. Well, almost perfect... has anyone noticed there are never any bug splats on the windows??? Smile I mean, where's the realism??? Or the guy standing there at the airport holdin' a squeegee, askin' for 5 bucks to clean your windows?! Guess someone will have to make a program for that, some day. Smile

Thanks again to all, and happy flying!

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