Flying AI Aircraft

You cannot fly ai aircraft.

Errr....actually you can, if the ai is in your aircraft folder you have to add a panel and sound to it, then change a few things in the CFG file like
ui_manufacturer=AI to

ui_manufacturer=Boeing (If it's a Boeing that is) and then maybe a few others like
ui_variation=
Then it should become flyable 🙂 .
But i recommend you don't, as it will no way handle like a decent addon aircraft, i suggest you just look for a decent addon for the aircraft you want!

Wow... Crash course on MD-80, here I come!!!

Welshflyer wrote:

Errr....actually you can, if the ai is in your aircraft folder you have to add a panel and sound to it, then change a few things in the CFG file like
ui_manufacturer=AI to

ui_manufacturer=Boeing (If it's a Boeing that is) and then maybe a few others like
ui_variation=
Then it should become flyable 🙂 .
But i recommend you don't, as it will no way handle like a decent addon aircraft, i suggest you just look for a decent addon for the aircraft you want!

Handling can be dealt with.

Can you please provide a tutorial of what needs to be done?

Well if you want a good FPS aircraft, AI is the way to go, as long as you have the time to edit the aircraft.cfg 😉

Well, this comes from one of the aircraft I want to fly:

[fltsim.0]
title=AIA 737-300 Air China
sim=aia_737_300
visual_damage=1
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=
atc_id=B2906
atc_airline=Air China
atc_flight_number=544
ui_manufacturer=Adobe's Traffic Pack
ui_type=B737-300
atc_parking_types=GATE,RAMP
ui_variation=Air China
description=AI Aardvark 737-300
atc_id_color=0000000000
atc_parking_codes=CCA

What needs to be changed there to enable me to fly the plane?

Following is the [General] section of the CFG. It is long!

Does anything in here need to be changed?

[General]
atc_type=BOEING
atc_model=B733
editable=1
performance=Only experienced AI pilots should attempt to fly this aircraft.

[pitot_static]
vertical_speed_time_constant = 1 //Increasing this value will cause a more instantaneous reaction in the VSI

[weight_and_balance]

// ACM V2.3
max_gross_weight = 150000
empty_weight = 74170
reference_datum_position = 0, 0, 0
empty_weight_CG_position = 4, 0, 0
empty_weight_pitch_MOI = 2572439
empty_weight_roll_MOI = 2262183
empty_weight_yaw_MOI = 3337024
empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 0
max_number_of_stations = 9

station_load.0 = "170.0, 41.0, -1.5, 0.0, Pilot"
station_load.1 = "170.0, 41.0, 1.5, 0.0, Co-Pilot"
station_load.2 = "510.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, Crew"
station_load.3 = "1360.0, 25.5, 0.0, 0.0, First Class"
station_load.4 = "8160.0, 11.0, 0.0, 0.0, Coach 3-10"
station_load.5 = "8160.0, -10.0, 0.0, 0.0, Coach 11-18"
station_load.6 = "7140.0, -30.5, 0.0, 0.0, Coach 19-25"
station_load.7 = "10000.0, 20.5, 0.0, 0.0, Forward Baggage"
station_load.8 = "4000.0, -27.5, 0.0, 0.0, Aft Baggage"

[lights]

//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing

light.0 = 3, -13.88, -47.64, 3.64, fx_navred
light.1 = 3, -13.88, 47.64, 3.64, fx_navgre
light.2 = 3, -56, 0, 7.6967568, fx_navwhi
light.3 = 2, -13.65, -47.5, 3.66, fx_strobe
light.4 = 2, -13.65, 47.50, 3.66, fx_strobe
light.5 = 2, 10.46, 0, -3.17, fx_beacon
light.6 = 1, 23.6086368, 0.00, 10.00, fx_beacon
light.7 = 3, -18.36, 47.64, 3.45, fx_navwhi
light.8 = 3, -18.36, -47.64, 3.45, fx_navwhi

[GeneralEngineData]

//0=Piston, 1=Jet, 2=None, 3=Helo-Turbine, 4=Rocket, 5=Turboprop
engine_type = 1
fuel_flow_scalar = 1
engine.0 = 4.75, -16.1, -4.5
engine.1 = 4.75, 16.1, -4.5
min_throttle_limit=-0.550000
max_contrail_temperature=-30

[effects]
wake = fx_wake
water = fx_spray
dirt = fx_tchdrt
concrete = fx_sparks
touchdown = fx_tchdwn, 1

[fuel]

//Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)

fuel_type = 2
number_of_tank_selectors = 1

Center1 = 0, 0, 0, 2313, 0
LeftMain = -3, -19, 0, 1500, 0
RightMain = -3, 19, 0, 1500, 0
electric_pump=0

[contact_points]
static_pitch = -0.3
static_cg_height = 6.75
max_number_of_points = 7

point.0 = 1, 38.554, 0, -6.8597, 1181.1, 0, 1.442, 55.92, 0.3, 2.5, 0.5, 4, 4, 0, 220, 250
point.1 = 1, -7.3207, -10, -7.7914, 1574.8, 1, 1.442, 0, 1, 2.5, 0.9, 6.9, 6.9, 2, 220, 250
point.2 = 1, -7.3207, 10, -7.7914, 1574.8, 2, 1.442, 0, 1, 2.5, 0.9, 7.1, 7.1, 3, 220, 250
point.3 = 2, -14.17, -47.33, 4, 787.4, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 5, 0, 0
point.4 = 2, -14.17, 47.33, 4, 787.4, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 6, 0, 0
point.5 = 2, -52.1668, 0, 5.187, 787.4, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 9, 0, 0
point.6 = 2, 43.9872, 0, 0.7861, 787.4, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0
gear_system_type=0

[keyboard_response]
elevator = 150, 250
aileron = 150, 250
rudder = 150, 250

[forcefeedback]
gear_bump_nose_magnitude = 3000
gear_bump_nose_direction = 18000
gear_bump_nose_duration = 250000
gear_bump_left_magnitude = 2700
gear_bump_left_direction = 35500
gear_bump_left_duration = 250000
gear_bump_right_magnitude = 2700
gear_bump_right_direction = 00500
gear_bump_right_duration = 250000
ground_bumps_magnitude1 = 1300
ground_bumps_angle1 = 08900
ground_bumps_intercept1 = 3.0
ground_bumps_slope1 = 0.20
ground_bumps_magnitude2 = 200
ground_bumps_angle2 = 09100
ground_bumps_intercept2 = 1.075
ground_bumps_slope2 = 0.035
crash_magnitude1 = 10000
crash_direction1 = 01000
crash_magnitude2 = 10000
crash_direction2 = 9000
crash_period2 = 75000
crash_duration2 = 2500000

[airplane_geometry]
//ACM_AREAW1// 0,0,0,6.4583,1.6044,1.6044,0.8891,7.0247,3.2088,3.2088
//ACM_AREAW2// 1.7783,7.5911,4.8133,4.8133,2.6679,8.1576,6.4176,6.4176,3.5573,8.7241
//ACM_AREAW3// 8.0221,8.0221,4.4467,9.2903,9.6266,9.6266,5.3361,9.8570,11.2306,11.2306
//ACM_AREAW4// 6.2252,10.4231,12.8353,12.8353,7.1146,10.9898,14.4399,14.4399,8.0038,11.5563
//ACM_AREAH1// 0,0,0,4.2367,0.7059,0.7059,0.4074,4.4324,1.4119,1.4119
//ACM_AREAH2// 0.8151,4.6283,2.1182,2.1182,1.2230,4.8242,2.8243,2.8243,1.6303,5.0198
//ACM_AREAH3// 3.5306,3.5306,2.0383,5.2157,4.2367,4.2367,2.4460,5.4116,4.9428,4.9428
//ACM_AREAH4// 2.8536,5.6076,5.6489,5.6489,3.2613,5.8034,6.3550,6.3550,3.6691,5.9993
//ACM_AREAV1// 0,0,0,6.5012,0.7221,0.7221,0.6061,6.5872,1.4447,1.4447
//ACM_AREAV2// 1.2122,6.6732,2.1670,2.1670,1.8184,6.7593,2.8894,2.8894,2.4244,6.8453
//ACM_AREAV3// 3.6117,3.6117,3.0306,6.9313,4.3340,4.3340,3.6368,7.0173,5.0566,5.0566
//ACM_AREAV4// 4.2430,7.1036,5.7789,5.7789,4.8491,7.1894,6.5012,6.5012,5.4552,7.2754
//ACM_CAREAW1// 7.2199,7.2199,7.2312,8.5228,8.0221,8.0221,7.6757,8.9027,8.8240,8.8240
//ACM_CAREAW2// 8.1204,9.2831,9.6266,9.6266,8.5649,9.6632,10.4287,10.4287,9.0100,10.0431
//ACM_CAREAW3// 11.2306,11.2306,9.4546,10.4231,12.0332,12.0332,9.8992,10.8035,12.8353,12.8353
//ACM_CAREAW4// 10.3437,11.1836,13.6372,13.6372,10.7887,11.5635,14.4399,14.4399,11.2333,11.9434
//ACM_CAREAH1// 0,0,2.1182,4.2367,0.7059,0.7059,2.5260,4.5384,1.4119,1.4119
//ACM_CAREAH2// 2.9337,4.8400,2.1182,2.1182,3.3413,5.1420,2.8243,2.8243,3.7490,5.4436
//ACM_CAREAH3// 3.5306,3.5306,4.1567,5.7455,4.2367,4.2367,4.5644,6.0472,4.9428,4.9428
//ACM_CAREAH4// 4.9720,6.3488,5.6489,5.6489,5.3797,6.6508,6.3550,6.3550,5.7873,6.9524
//ACM_CAREAV1// 0,0,1.6253,4.8758,0.7221,0.7221,2.2314,5.2220,1.4447,1.4447
//ACM_CAREAV2// 2.8375,5.5682,2.1670,2.1670,3.4437,5.9141,2.8894,2.8894,4.0499,6.2603
//ACM_CAREAV3// 3.6117,3.6117,4.6560,6.6064,4.3340,4.3340,5.2621,6.9524,5.0566,5.0566
//ACM_CAREAV4// 5.8681,7.2986,5.7789,5.7789,6.4745,7.6447,6.5012,6.5012,7.0805,7.9906
wing_area = 1856
wing_span = 94.75
wing_root_chord = 21.18
wing_dihedral = 6.19
wing_incidence = 1.0
wing_twist = -0.5
oswald_efficiency_factor = 0.75
wing_winglets_flag = 0
wing_sweep = 29
wing_pos_apex_lon = 13.23
wing_pos_apex_vert = 0
htail_area = 338.0
htail_span = 41.70
htail_pos_lon = -42.97
htail_pos_vert = 0
htail_incidence = 0.0
htail_sweep = 30
vtail_area = 291
vtail_span = 21.33
vtail_sweep = 40
vtail_pos_lon = -35.02
vtail_pos_vert = 8.08
elevator_area = 70.5
aileron_area = 26.9
rudder_area = 56.2
elevator_up_limit = 22.5
elevator_down_limit = 19.5
aileron_up_limit = 20.0
aileron_down_limit = 20.0
rudder_limit = 26.0
elevator_trim_limit = 20.0
spoiler_limit = 60.0
aileron_to_spoileron_gain = 3
min_ailerons_for_spoilerons = 10
min_flaps_for_spoilerons = 0
spoilerons_available = 1

[electrical]
max_battery_voltage = 24
generator_alternator_voltage = 28
max_generator_alternator_amps = 60
electric_always_available = 0
flap_motor = 0, 5, 17
gear_motor = 0, 5, 17
autopilot = 0, 5, 17
avionics_bus = 0, 5, 17
avionics = 1, 5, 17
pitot_heat = 0, 2, 17
additional_system = 0, 2, 17
marker_beacon = 1, 2, 17
gear_warning = 0, 2, 17
fuel_pump = 0, 5, 17
starter1 = 0, 20, 17
light_nav = 0, 5, 17
light_beacon = 0, 5, 17
light_landing = 0, 5, 17
light_taxi = 0, 5, 17
light_strobe = 0, 5, 17
light_panel = 0, 5, 17

[flight_tuning]
cruise_lift_scalar=1.2
parasite_drag_scalar=1.0
induced_drag_scalar=1.0
elevator_effectiveness=1.0
aileron_effectiveness=1.0
rudder_effectiveness=1.0
pitch_stability=1.0
roll_stability=1.0
yaw_stability=1.0
elevator_trim_effectiveness=1.0
aileron_trim_effectiveness=1.0
rudder_trim_effectiveness=1.0

[TurbineEngineData]
fuel_flow_gain=0.002 //Gain on fuel flow
inlet_area=19.6 //Square Feet, engine nacelle inlet area
rated_N2_rpm=29920 //RPM, second stage compressor rated value
static_thrust=23500 //Lbs, max rated static thrust at Sea Level
afterburner_available=0 //Afterburner available?
reverser_available=1 //Thrust reverser available?

[jet_engine]
thrust_scalar=1.0

[gear_warning_system]
gear_warning_available = 1 //Normal
pct_throttle_limit = 0.1 //Percent throttle that activates warning
flap_limit_idle = 5.0 //Flap angle that activates warning at idle
flap_limit_power = 25.5 //Flap angle that activates warning at above idle
[brakes]
parking_brake = 1 //Parking brake available
toe_brakes_scale = 0.2 //Brake scalar
[hydraulic_system]
normal_pressure = 3000.0 //PSI
electric_pumps = 0 //no electric pumps
engine_map = 1,1,0,0 //pumps on Eng1,2
[Views]
eyepoint=43.7, -1.31, 3.7 //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datum

[flaps.0] //Trailing Edge Flaps
type = 1 // 1 - tail, 2 - lead
span-outboard = 0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0
extending-time = 20 // seconds
flaps-position.0 = 0 // degrees
flaps-position.1 = 1 // degrees
flaps-position.2 = 2 // degrees
flaps-position.3 = 5 // degrees
flaps-position.4 = 10 // degrees
flaps-position.5 = 15 // degrees
flaps-position.6 = 25 // degrees
flaps-position.7 = 30 // degrees
flaps-position.8 = 40 // degrees
damaging-speed = 250 // KIAS
blowout-speed = 300 // KIAS
lift_scalar = 0.1
drag_scalar = 1.0
pitch_scalar= 1.0
system_type = 1 //Hydraulic

[flaps.1] //Inboard Leading Edge Flaps
type = 2 // 1 - tail, 2 - lead
span-outboard = 0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0
extending-time = 2 // seconds
flaps-position.0 = 0 //
flaps-position.4 = 1.0 //
damaging-speed = 250 // KIAS
blowout-speed = 300 // KIAS
lift_scalar = 0.1
drag_scalar = 1.0
pitch_scalar= 1.0
system_type = 1 //Hydraulic

[flaps.2] //Outboard Leading Edge Slat
type = 2 // 1 - tail, 2 - lead
span-outboard = 0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0
extending-time = 3 // seconds
flaps-position.0 = 0 //
flaps-position.3 = 0.5 //
flaps-position.4 = 1.0 //
damaging-speed = 250 // KIAS
blowout-speed = 300 // KIAS
lift_scalar = 0.1
drag_scalar = 1.0
pitch_scalar= 1.0
system_type = 1 //Hydraulic

[Radios]
// Radio Type = availiable, standby frequency, has glide slope
Audio.1=1
Com.1=1, 1
Com.2=1, 1
Nav.1=1, 1, 1
Nav.2=1, 1, 0
Adf.1=1
Transponder.1=1
Marker.1=1

[direction_indicators]
//1 Type: 0=None, 1=Vacuum Gyro, 2=Electric Gyro, 3=Electro-Mag Slaved Compass, 4=Slaved to another
//2 Indicator number of slaving indicator if Type = 4
direction_indicator.0=3,0

[attitude_indicators]
//Type: 0=None, 1=Vacuum Gyro, 2=Electric Gyro
attitude_indicator.0 = 1
[turn_indicators]
//Type: 0=None, 1=Electric Gyro, 2= Vacuum Gyro
turn_indicator.0=0,0
[exits]
number_of_exits = 2
exit_rate.0 = 0.4 ;Percent per second
exit_rate.1 = 0.4 ;Percent per second

[autopilot]
autopilot_available=1
flight_director_available=1
default_vertical_speed=1800
autothrottle_available=1
autothrottle_arming_required=1
autothrottle_max_rpm = 90
autothrottle_takeoff_ga=1
pitch_takeoff_ga=8 ;
max_pitch=10.0
max_pitch_acceleration=1.0
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt=2.0
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt=1.5
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt_breakpoint=20000.0
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt_breakpoint=28000.0
max_bank=25.0
max_bank_acceleration=1.8
max_bank_velocity=3.00
max_throttle_rate=0.10
nav_proportional_control=12.00
nav_integrator_control=0.25
nav_derivative_control=0.00
nav_integrator_boundary=2.50
nav_derivative_boundary=0.00
gs_proportional_control=25.0
gs_integrator_control=0.53
gs_derivative_control=0.00
gs_integrator_boundary=0.70
gs_derivative_boundary=0.00
yaw_damper_gain = 1.0

[Reference Speeds]
flaps_up_stall_speed=122.0 //Knots True (KTAS)
full_flaps_stall_speed=113.0 //Knots True (KTAS)
cruise_speed=477.0 //Knots True (KTAS)
max_mach = 0.87
max_indicated_speed = 340 //Red line (KIAS)

[stall_warning]
type=2

Sorry for all that.

Do some research into the actual FDE's of the 737-300 and compare them to your own figures and try and make them as accurate as possible 😉
PS: Im not too sure my self how to convert them to flyable, try referring to the above posts

I'm using traffic 2005 (just flight), where I'm lucky...it has its own .exe program for installing its AI aircraft to flyable, all 63 types of aircraft with from 2-60 liveries each (might be more), an added bonus aswell that they all come with a cockpit!
That probably wont help you, but at least you know that there are AI addons that have that function.

warlord40 wrote:

I'm using traffic 2005 (just flight), where I'm lucky...it has its own .exe program for installing its AI aircraft to flyable, all 63 types of aircraft with from 2-60 liveries each (might be more), an added bonus aswell that they all come with a cockpit!
That probably wont help you, but at least you know that there are AI addons that have that function.

Adobe's Traffic pack seems to me to be more detailed. Their 737-300 model has 111 liveries. That's why I'm so interested in converting them.

Are there any programs that convert AI aircraft into flyable planes automatically?

Can I stop you and ask you WHY you want to fly an AI plane anyway???

There are like a million flyable planes out there, what makes this particular AI plane so special? Have you checked to see if there is a flyable version of it anyway?

belgeode wrote:

Can I stop you and ask you WHY you want to fly an AI plane anyway???

There are like a million flyable planes out there, what makes this particular AI plane so special? Have you checked to see if there is a flyable version of it anyway?

It's the Adobe AI traffic pack. There are more liveries in each of the 200-odd AI craft than I could ever find and install in my life. And some of those liveries are unique to the Adobe pack.