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Trying to master the ILS landing in the Airbus A321

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RickG
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 7:29 pm 

This aircraft is about to beat me! Can anyone out there tell me how they coordinate disengaging both the ATHR and AP buttons just prior to touchdown!

I started disengaging the ATHR at 150' AGL, and all is fine until I disengage AP shortly after the ATHR. Once I hit the AP button, the plane wants to drop out of the air very quickly which is not good that low to the ground.
Most of the time, I can catch the descent with the joystick and safely manually land the plane without issues! This takes quick timing and concentration, but I wouldn't think it should be that difficult? I must be approaching this task incorrectly and would appreciate any suggestions you all might have!

In comparison, the 737-800 is a "piece of cake" doing ILS approach to landings!

Thanks - Rick
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 8:17 pm 

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Rick G
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 12:43 am 

Thanks, RadarMan, I tried the techniques of the video. The author shows disengaging the AP, and all functions disengage, AP and ATHR, which looks like it would work for me? I tried it and when I, pressed the AP button, it seemed like the ATHR kicked in to a more accelerated mode, which is worse than what I have been dealing with. Sounds bizarre, I know, but it could be just my FSX set up?

I tried other approach to landings, using various altitudes for disengaging the ATHR and AP modes, and I have found one that I can deal with!

Altitude 175 - Disengage ATHR
Altitude 100 - Disengage AP

The aircraft seems to be content on the descent to flare where I press the F1 key and land!

Seems like a lot more to remember than with other aircraft I am used to flying. Like I said before, the Boeing 737-800 is very easy to perform an ILS landing! I do, however, like the shorter take off and landing distance of the Airbus A321!

Anyway, thanks again! Have a nice evening! - Rick
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 1:57 am 

Airbus and Boeing are two different animals.
They don't operate alike in all aspects.

See if this is any good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDS12xK5sK8

Radar

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Rick G
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 11:34 am 

I found this post by Member lionlicker on 6/22/2016 and this has solved this problem!

Show the overhead panel ( Shift 5 ), and you will see three flight control buttons in the mid left region. Click those three FLT CTL buttons to OFF , and you should find the A321 behaves normally.

Also, on final before flare and touchdown, you should turn Auto throttle of first, then turn the Auto Pilot off , in that order.

Remember to use reverse thrust whilst braking on the tarmac - which on my setup is the [fn] key and the [F2] key - - then [fn][F1] to stop the reverse thrust.
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 11:51 am 

I should have at least thanked lionlicker for his post on 6/22/2016. I should have remembered this, as I read this long ago before ever attempting the Airbus A321. I know the post has some age to it, but maybe it might help any new flight sim x users attempting to fly the Airbus A321.

In my test flight, I disengaged the ATHR first, then the AP, as lionlicker suggested, at 150' AGL, and it worked like a charm! Those 3 button disengagements was like "taming the monster!" THANK YOU, lionlicker!!!!

Happy flying to all and have a nice day! - Rick
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 3:41 pm 

Glad you were able to solve your problem.
Look long enough and someone else had the same hangup.

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Rick G
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 5:27 pm 

That's what I like about this forum site, people willing to share and help! Means a lot!

Have a nice day! - Rick
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