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Lockheed L1011 Whistperjet Panel

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Aldeeb First Officer

I am having problems with the panel for this aircraft.

The Radio Stack has the following lines in its part of the "Panel" folder:

[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=127,319
window_size_ratio=1.00
position=0
visible=0
ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL
window_size= 0.250, 0.650
window_pos= 0.000, 0.350

gauge00=737-400!Comm 1, 0,0,127,54
gauge01=737-400!Comm 2, 0,54,127,54
gauge02=737-400!Nav 1, 0,108,127,54
gauge03=737-400!Nav 2, 0,162,127,54
gauge04=737-400!Transponder, 0,216,127,49
gauge05=737-400!ADF, 0,265,127,54
gauge06=737-400!Audio, 0,319,127,26

Gauges 00-05 appear correctly but 06 will not show.

I have changed to two other audio panels with the same result. Also I changed the window_size from 0.250.0.350 as I thought the height was not enough. The only effect is to squash up the entire stack.

Everything is now back as it was with gauges 00-05 ok but not 06.

Can anybody see any reason why this should be so?

rgds

9 Responses

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hinch Chief Captain

it can only be that the gauge name 'Audio' is incorrect. see if it's anywhere else in the panel (probably visible in vc if availible).

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lkw First Officer

You might check that the 737-400 cab folder for the Audio gauge. It could be that the gauge is missing.

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Aldeeb First Officer

Thanks for the two replies - so far as I can see the naming is correct and a check of the 737 seems to be identical. Where is the "cab" folder located?

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Aldeeb First Officer

Following the above I've done a thorough check of four aircraft fitted with identical kit and below are the "Radio Stack" lines from the panel.cfg of each:

MD83 DC10
[Window03]
file=radio_a.bmp
size_mm=1024
position=0
visible=0
ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL

gauge00=737-400!Comm 1, 650,432,204,50
gauge01=737-400!Nav 1, 650,481,204,50
gauge02=737-400!Nav 2, 650,530,204,50
gauge03=737-400!Transponder, 650,579,204,50
gauge04=737-400!ADF, 650,628,204,50
gauge05=737-400!Audio, 650,677,204,23

Boeing 737-400
[Window03]
file=radio_a.bmp
size_mm=1024
position=0
visible=0
ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL

gauge00=737-400!Comm 1, 650,432,204,50
gauge01=737-400!Nav 1, 650,481,204,50
gauge02=737-400!Nav 2, 650,530,204,50
gauge03=737-400!Transponder, 650,579,204,50
gauge04=737-400!ADF, 650,628,204,50
gauge05=737-400!Audio, 650,677,204,

Lockheed L1011
[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=127,319
window_size_ratio=1.00
position=0
visible=0
ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL
window_size= 0.250, 0.650
window_pos= 0.000, 0.350

gauge00=737-400!Comm 1, 0,0,127,54
gauge01=737-400!Comm 2, 0,54,127,54
gauge02=737-400!Nav 1, 0,108,127,54
gauge03=737-400!Nav 2, 0,162,127,54
gauge04=737-400!Transponder, 0,216,127,49
gauge05=737-400!ADF, 0,265,127,54
gauge06=737-400!Audio, 0,319,127,26

Lockheed C130 Hercules
[Window02]
Background_color=16,16,16
size_mm=127,345
position=8
visible=0
ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL

gauge00=737-400!Comm 1, 0,0
gauge01=737-400!Comm 2, 0,54
gauge02=737-400!Nav 1, 0,108
gauge03=737-400!Nav 2, 0,162
gauge04=737-400!Transponder, 0,216
gauge05=737-400!ADF, 0,265
gauge06=737-400!Audio, 0,319

I measured the dimensions of the Radio Stack for each on my 17" screen:

DC10 : 3.75" high x 2.6" wide
737 : 7.5" high x 2.5" wide
L1011 : 6.5" high x 3.5" wide
C130 : 5" high x 1.75" wide

The DC10, 737 and C130 all show the Audio Panel but the L1011 does not.

I note the difference in the lines above the "gauge" info but I can see no reason why the L1011 should lack the Audio Panel - I wonder if you can see what I am missing?

rgds

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lkw First Officer

A comparison of all of the callouts
A gauge callout consist of a few elements
(Gauge number)(file)(Gauge name)(X loction)(Y location)(X size)(Y size)
(gauge05) (737-400!).....(Audio)......(650).....(677).........(204)...(23)

You need number, file, gauge name, X location and Y location
if you do not provide the size parameters the default gage size will be used for size.

MD83 DC10
gauge05=737-400!Audio, 650,677,204,23

Boeing 737-400
gauge05=737-400!Audio, 650,677,204,

In this case I believe the size may go square that is 204 x 204 at least that is what happens if the you leave off the Y size on a gauge. It may just use the gauge Y size as default I have never tried this out.

Lockheed L1011
gauge06=737-400!Audio, 0,319,127,26

I noticed the X size is almost half of the previous two callouts

Lockheed C130 Hercules
gauge06=737-400!Audio, 0,319

default size is used here

You may want to play with the size parameters either drop them off and see what the default will give you or maybe try 204 or there abouts.

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lkw First Officer

Noticed another difference I know you played with window size but the size_mm=127,319 is a bit unusual. You normally see size_mm=1024
the C130 Hercules seems to have a callout simuilar to the Lockheed L1011
I think I would be tempted to try size_mm=1024 just for grins.

Lockheed L1011
[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=127,319

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Aldeeb First Officer

Noted re the above, I suspected there might be something not quite right in the first lines of the "Radio Stack" sub-program.

I pasted in the first group of lines from the 737-400 leaving all the "gauges" untouched as there was nothing obviously amiss there.

I renamed the original panel and kept it for safety.

I ran up the L1011, pressed the "Radio Stack" button and up it came, complete with the audio panel at the bottom - surprisingly the dimensions as viewed on screen had now become 4.75" high x 1.75" wide. Neither the 737 nor the L1011 had appeared with this dimension before so once more I'm mystified with why it should have changed.

The size of the pop-up "Radio Stack" is good enough to operate the audio buttons so that problem seems to have been solved. Thanks to you both.

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lkw First Officer

Glad to hear you have had some success. 👍
If you up for further adventure you could possibly add a window size to adjust it more to your liking.

window_size= 0.250, 0.650
I believe the parameters here are a precentage of the window X and Yas the program will not accept an entry over 1.

Before you do that you may be interested in getting a hold of a demo version of FSPanel it allow you to identify gauges and will give you an idea of what you may want to enter in the parameters. The rub is that the demo vesion is a full version of the program without the ability to actually save any changes. But you can get a real good idea of what you want and plug it in with the notes editor.
The demo version is free by the way.

http://www.fspanelstudio.com/

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Aldeeb First Officer

Thanks for the above - I tried to substitute the 0.250,0.650 for the existant 127,345 mm dimension and it produced a tiny stack overlapping the bottom of the screen.

So, I went back to the original size and altered it by a factor of 2 but this didn't work as all that happened was that the original size stack appeared on a black rectangle with twice the width and height. So back to the original which although small works well enough.

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