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Website to download SIDS/STARS?

Pro Member Trainee
gabejo Trainee

Does anyone know of a site where you download SIDS/STARS data. Inputing date in the FMC in PMDG 737NG can be a pain.
Thanks

Pro Member First Officer
Arkydave First Officer

The downloads page at the PMDG website includes a Navigation Data download that includes a ton of SIDs/STARs.

Pro Member Trainee
ArchAngel_06 Trainee

What's SIDS/STARS?

Pro Member Chief Captain
RadarMan Chief Captain

ArchAngel_06 wrote:

What's SIDS/STARS?

You can get a very good explanation here, better than I could give as a novice.

http://www.navdata.at/php/sidstar/sidstar.php

Radar

Pro Member Trainee
ArchAngel_06 Trainee

Im a little confused. Do you need software to actually use the routes, or does FS9 take care of it. I think I may need a novice explanation. Or atleast anythign to give me the bigger gist of it. I understand what SIDS/STARS is but how can I apply it to FS9?

Pro Member Chief Captain
RadarMan Chief Captain

This is the read-me from one of the downloads.

Radar

Australian SIDís, STARís, APPROACHES
For Wilco 767PIC FMC

****** All data herein is for Flight Simulation use only, and not to be used for Real World Navigation *******

The files in this package have been scanned for viruses with Panda Antivirus prior to uploading.

AIRAC DATABASE : 0309 and above
- Richard Stefan - www.navdata.at/

Based on Australian Departure and Approach Procedures (DAP95)
Effective : October 2nd 2003

Release : 1.0
Date created : 29th September 2003
Author : Merv Archer
Special release for www.navdata.at

For the most up to date releases and revisions
you may want to check out my web site.

http://www.austscene.com

This Release :

(1) New ARBEY1 STAR
(2) Addition of a Runway 27 VOR/DME Approach

Runway Approach Naming Conventions
----------------------------------------------------------
ILS - ILS approaches only
VORD - VOR/DME
OM - Outer Marker
IAF - Initial Approach Fix
CF - Center Fix
FF/FAF - Final Approach Fix
MDA - Minimum Descent Altitude
MAPt - Missed Approach Point - (Non Precision)
MAWP - Missed Approach Way Point
Clout - Runway Heading Climb Out
(Please note if Clout has DME requirement this is taken into consideration in LNAV Mode)

Special attention has been given to departing runway heading climb out fixes
or DME distance requirements, to allow for fly-by or fly-over fixes.

The files in this package are for use with Melbourne Airport (YMML), Australia

Melbourne Airport has 4 runways. All are available for the B767-300

Rwy 09 VOR/DME
Hdg - 080
Freq - MLvor 114.10
MDA - 950 (555 - 3.1)

Rwy 16 ILS or ILS/DME
Ident - IMS
Hdg - 160
Freq - 109.70
DA - 640 (208 - 0.😎

Rwy 27 ILS or ILS/DME
Ident - IMW
Hdg - 263
Freq - 109.30
DA - 610 (203 - 0.😎

Rwy 27 VOR/DME
Hdg - 266
Freq - MLvor 114.10
MDA 1040 (633 Ė 2.7)

Rwy 34 VOR/DME
Hdg - 346
Freq - MLvor 114.10
MDA - 810 (480 - 2.7)

VOR/DME Approaches
------------------------------------------------
As these approaches are of the non precision type, you will notice that there is
no runway in the legs page of the FMC to fly to. This is in keeping with the true
nature of theses type of approaches, as you fly to the VOR not the runway.

Installation
---------------------------
Before installing this update, go to the folders listed below and delete all files named YMML*.*
be careful to type it correctly.

Insert files from YMML_APPS.zip into FSxxxx/Fmcwp/navdata/Approaches Folder
Insert files from YMML_SIDS.zip into FSxxxx/Fmcwp/navdata/Sids Folder
Insert files from YMML_STARS.zip into FSxxxx/Fmcwp/navdata/Stars Folder

Understanding the 34vis-EN Approach
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

During the arrival stage ATC may give you STAR clearance for a WAREN 5 Arrival, Runway 34
Now, as there are two types of runway approaches for Rwy34 ie. 34 VOR/DME and the 34vis-EN
you may get a bit confused as to which one to select, well, the guide below should help you out.

STAR Approach Type
---------------------------------------------------------------------
ARBEY 34VORD
HOBAY 34VORD
MICHM 34VORD
PLENTY 34VORD
WENDY 34VORD

BADGR 34vis-EN
NAREL 34vis-EN
WAREN 34vis-EN
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Hope this helps

One extra point here the 34vis-EN approach is a visual procedure, meaning you are expected
to be visual abeam the Essendon NDB (EN), if not the you must execute a Rwy 34 VOR/DME
missed approach.

Missed Approach.
If not visual by EN track 257 to intercept ML R-166 o at the VOR track 346 climb to 4000ft
or as directed by ATC

****** All data herein is for Flight Simulation use only, and not to be used for Real World Navigation *******

Pro Member First Officer
Arkydave First Officer

ArchAngel_06 wrote:

Im a little confused. Do you need software to actually use the routes, or does FS9 take care of it. I think I may need a novice explanation. Or atleast anythign to give me the bigger gist of it. I understand what SIDS/STARS is but how can I apply it to FS9?

If you have the procedure for a particular SID/STAR, you can fly it manually of course. The files that are being discussed here are intended to be input into a FMS (Flight Management System?). The PMDG aircraft that the originator of this thread asked about has a built-in FMS. Most don't. But you can use SquawkBox with most aircraft, and it has a FMS.

elkinallen Guest

Are they refered to DP's/STARS at all?

Pro Member Chief Captain
RadarMan Chief Captain

Here's a pretty good and lengthily explanation of GDP.

http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/FAC/1709.html

Radar

Pro Member Trainee
pilotshep Trainee

The Best way to have sid/stars in fs9 is to simply get the sid or star chart and edit the flight planner route and add all the VOR s and NBD,s that are in the sid or star. Then if you are using pmdg then you can simply select the sid in the fmc departures page and it will will the same route that ATC are directing you on> Hope this helps>

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