progression from Cessna

okk

I think that the ones you are seeing at london city are likely to be ATP's.

I would say the next progression for you would be the beechcraft.
first do the baron, it's a small twin engine (6-😎seats.
Then once your happy with that then go on to the kingair.
From the kingair I would maybe give the 737 a try.
The learjet is a little jumpy, i find the 737 easier to fly than the learjet.
I would stay in the 737 for quite a while, maybe practising circuits and bumps on an airfield with a long runway, using large/high cuircuits.
I.E take off from somewhere like Heathrow climb to 3000ft turn left to heading 180deg try to kepp your speed at about 200knts fly for 1minute at that heading turn left to heading 90deg. look over your left side and you should see the airport go past. once you pass the far end of the runway count 3mintues then turn left to 000deg count 1minute and then turn left to 270.
If your turns have been the same rate of turn you should ne be roughly lined up with the runway and you should be able to procatise your landings. once you land and start to slow hit full thottle and take off again. and repeat.
Obviously you could practice cuircuits in the other aircraft also for practice.
Also it would be truly unrealistic for you to be doing circuits at heathrow, but hey its a sim after all. if you want somewhere more realistic try farnborough, but be aware that the runway headings are different so you will need to adjust your headings to account.

do i have to download these beechcraft or are they default in FS04 i dont think i remember seeing any?! if so is there any freeware i can get these craft from?

Here's a nice Baron for you.
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http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=b58tc.zip&CatID=root&Go=Search

As people said: Go to a small twin like the Baron and get acquainted with the extra power (and the extra engine). Then, you could probably go to a jet and I would suggest the 737. Sure, it's not the smallest one out there, but it's a *very* forgiving aircraft. The Lear on the other hand is a little b*tch 😂

The Beechjet 400A on Flight Unlimited III is widely regarded as the best small jet model.

CaptainKW wrote:

do i have to download these beechcraft or are they default in FS04 i dont think i remember seeing any?! if so is there any freeware i can get these craft from?

You can download these as freeware if you want, but both the Baron and the KingAir are default aircraft in FS04. I think that flying the KingAir would be excellent experience before tackling jets; it is a turboprop, so the instruments and performance are similar to a small jet.

On the other hand, I never enjoyed the Baron that much. For one thing, it's lousy for sight-seeing because of those giant engine housings.

And I think that the Lear is much easier to fly than a 737. Just my opinion, but I find the Lear easier to fly than some of the prop planes, primarily because it has an autothrottle. In a jet, controlling the speed is a major concern; it's easy to get an overspeed warning, or to stall if you slow down too much. It's a good way to control all that excess power.

Ed

Ed,
He can always use the Howard or the default DC-3, it may be ancient but very "flyable".

http://www.flightsimonline.com/ Howard.

RadarMan wrote:

Ed,
He can always use the Howard or the default DC-3, it may be ancient but very "flyable".

http://www.flightsimonline.com/ Howard.

RadarMan,

I agree that the default DC-3 is quite flyable, and very easy to handle and land for a passenger aircraft. Taxiing that beast is another matter. 😳 I did the Reeves Aleutian Airways flights in that; the flying was fun, but I got in the habit of starting each flight on the active runway, and ending there too. I'm sure the passengers didn't mind the extra walk to and from the terminals! 😂

Ed

Guest Ed wrote:

RadarMan wrote:

Ed,
He can always use the Howard or the default DC-3, it may be ancient but very "flyable".

http://www.flightsimonline.com/ Howard.

RadarMan,

I agree that the default DC-3 is quite flyable, and very easy to handle and land for a passenger aircraft. Taxiing that beast is another matter. 😳 I did the Reeves Aleutian Airways flights in that; the flying was fun, but I got in the habit of starting each flight on the active runway, and ending there too. I'm sure the passengers didn't mind the extra walk to and from the terminals! 😂

Ed

Ed,
I fly the DC-3 quite a bit, taxi with the tailwheel unlocked (Shift+G) and full flaps.
I always do it the way and never have a problem.
The chickens in the cargo bay love it.

I'd suggest going to the more sophisticated singles, like the Caravan next. It's got some challenges.

i agree with smithcorp

smithcorp wrote:

I'd suggest going to the more sophisticated singles, like the Caravan next. It's got some challenges.

Yes, I've done some long tours in the Caravan Amphibious, and that was a lot of fun. I did a trip down the length of the Mississippi River in which I programmed engine and electrical failures to happen about every 30 minutes. I got a lot of practice in making unplanned water landings. You have GOT to watch out for those bridges, by the way. 😳

And the land-based Caravan is a lot of fun, too. That's a real workhorse, with a lot of range and respectable speed for a single-engine job (it is also a turboprop). And it's got enough power to fly loops and rolls, too! 😂

RadarMan, try that and see what your chickens have to say! 😂 😂

Ed

Guest Ed wrote:

smithcorp wrote:

I'd suggest going to the more sophisticated singles, like the Caravan next. It's got some challenges.

RadarMan, try that and see what your chickens have to say! 😂 😂

Ed

😁 As long as they lay eggs I'm happy!

RadarMan wrote:

Guest Ed wrote:

smithcorp wrote:

I'd suggest going to the more sophisticated singles, like the Caravan next. It's got some challenges.

RadarMan, try that and see what your chickens have to say! 😂 😂

Ed

😁 As long as they lay eggs I'm happy!

RadarMan,

I just got this image in my head of you flying a decrepit-looking old DC-3, wearing a leather flight helmet and goggles, cigar stub chomped between gritted teeth, with chickens cackling and feathers swirling around the cockpit. 😉 😂

Ed

Guest Ed wrote:

RadarMan wrote:

Guest Ed wrote:

smithcorp wrote:

I'd suggest going to the more sophisticated singles, like the Caravan next. It's got some challenges.

RadarMan, try that and see what your chickens have to say! 😂 😂

Ed

😁 As long as they lay eggs I'm happy!

RadarMan,

I just got this image in my head of you flying a decrepit-looking old DC-3, wearing a leather flight helmet and goggles, cigar stub chomped between gritted teeth, with chickens cackling and feathers swirling around the cockpit. 😉 😂

Ed

Ed,
Don't forget the white scarf blowing in the wind! (Those day's must have been"grand")!

Finally we show a pic of RadarMan 😉 ...Thanks for sharing ❗ 😂 😂 😂

my next step after a cessna was the default mooney. its got some more challenges like spped brakes higher cruise speed, cowl flaps, but its not a twin.