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Pro Member First Officer
rowcoach First Officer

I have a new respect for anyone of the groups that put together realistic flight plans for real world airlines. I spent the better part of the weekend putting together one for Air Canada. The hard part was finding all the repaints to so I could have the correct planes flying the correct routes. As it was, I couldn't find all the planes I needed.

My question is, can you just take a plane that is flyable (ie - not an AI plane) and just remove the panel folder from the file to make it an AI only plane - or do you have to load a special air file as well?

Thanks.

Pro Member Captain
PanAmerican Captain

You dont need to remove the panel from a flyable aircraft.

To make it an AI aircraft, you just change the text after title=

Just like you would with an AI Aircraft.[/quote]

poo-poo Guest

you can just add the title to the aircraft.txt and give it a AC#xx and add a cruise speed. after you decompile with Ttools. (make back ups first).
but you need flight plans(think ya got) that put AC#xxx to the aircraft for that flight. (no repeat AC#xx cuzz ya get a headache).
if yer trying to use for AI and it was designed for flying ya you could take out the panel if you think thats gonna help with frame rates.
cuzz flyable aircraft aint so good for AI when ya got a lot of em.
i usually take out the sound too, well, about a 25% of AI i have sound.
better frame rates. and i have a few skysong or whatever sounds for them in my fsconv. folder to give the default sounds a break.

Pro Member First Officer
rowcoach First Officer

thanks for your help. Do I change the title= to the same name as the name I saved the plane under. Right now I have one plane saved as AIA BOEING 767-300 AIRCANADA HYBRID COLORS but the title in the aircraft.config file has it under a different name. Should that work, or do I have to change it so that both are the same?

Also, does it matter if I use spaces between words (air canada) or do I have to use an under score (air_canada).

poo-poo Guest

for some reason i just don't understand the question!
but, if you asking well let me put it like this as a example.
on your "aircraft.cfg" notepad thingy it says

[fltsim.0] <~~~~~~~~or .1 .2 .3 ect
title=AIA b747-400 MY airlines <~~~~~(example)

so after yo decompile there is a "aircraft.txt" that TTOOLS makes. on there it should read the same as the title= , on "aircraft.cfg"

AC#xx,491,"AIA b747-400 MY airlines"<<with the quotation marks

included, capitals and small letters matter)

AC#xx <<have to give a number usually not taken and may have to edit the add on flight plans AC#xx for that particular aircraft.

491 is the cruise speed for that flight, sometimes different

"AIA b747-400 MY airlines"<< yes has to be exact as title= ,

hope this helps, kinda hard for me to explain with out bablin for hours Confused

maybe this would help. from fs2002 aircraft.txt from ttools.

AC#1,200,"Beech Baron 58"
AC#2,315,"Beech King Air 350"
AC#3,430,"Boeing 737-400"
AC#4,430,"Boeing 737-400 Paint1"
AC#5,430,"Boeing 737-400 Paint2"
AC#6,491,"Boeing 747-400"
AC#7,491,"Boeing 747-400 Paint1"
AC#8,491,"Boeing 747-400 Paint2"
AC#9,482,"Boeing 777-300"
AC#10,482,"Boeing 777-300 Paint1"
AC#11,482,"Boeing 777-300 Paint2"
AC#12,143,"Cessna 208 Caravan Amphibian"
AC#13,143,"Cessna 208 Caravan Amphibian Paint1"
AC#14,143,"Cessna 208 Caravan Amphibian Paint2"
AC#15,175,"Cessna Grand Caravan"
AC#16,175,"Cessna Grand Caravan Paint1"
AC#17,175,"Cessna Grand Caravan Paint2"
AC#18,129,"Cessna Skyhawk 172SP"
AC#19,129,"Cessna Skyhawk 172SP Paint1"
AC#20,129,"Cessna Skyhawk 172SP Paint2"
AC#21,156,"Cessna Skylane 182R RG"
AC#22,140,"Cessna Skylane 182S"
AC#23,140,"Cessna Skylane 182S Paint1"
AC#24,140,"Cessna Skylane 182S Paint2"
AC#25,140,"Cessna Skylane 182S Paint3"
AC#26,464,"Learjet 45"
AC#27,195,"Mooney Bravo"
AC#28,265,"De Havilland Dash 8-100"
AC#29,265,"De Havilland Dash 8-100 Paint1"
AC#30,265,"De Havilland Dash 8-100 Paint2"
AC#31,437,"McDonnell-Douglas/Boeing MD-83"
AC#32,437,"McDonnell-Douglas/Boeing MD-83 Paint1"
AC#33,437,"McDonnell-Douglas/Boeing MD-83 Paint2"
AC#34,124,"Piper Cherokee 180"
AC#35,124,"Piper Cherokee 180 Paint1"
AC#36,124,"Piper Cherokee 180 Paint2"
AC#37,200,"AI Empire F-28"
AC#38,200,"AI Empire Metro III"
AC#40,284,"PAI B1900D CommutAir"
AC#41,250,"AI Piedmont Airlines 737-200"
AC#42,250,"AI Piedmont Airlines 737-300"
AC#43,250,"AI Piedmont Airlines 727-200"
AC#44,250,"AI Piedmont Airlines 767-200"
AC#45,250,"AI Piedmont Airlines F28-1000"
AC#46,250,"AI Piedmont Airlines F28-4000"
AC#100,438,"717aipack1"
AC#101,438,"717aipack1 Paint1"
AC#102,438,"717aipack1 Paint2"
AC#971,460,"PAI B732 ASA_Combi"
AC#972,439,"PAI B734 ASA"
AC#973,430,"PAI B737 ASA"
AC#974,430,"PAI B739 ASA"
AC#975,440,"PAI MD82 ASA"
AC#976,439,"PAI B734 ASA_Blue"
AC#977,439,"PAI B734 ASA_Disney"
AC#1171,457,"PAI A306 AAL"
AC#1172,430,"PAI B738 AAL"
AC#1173,460,"PAI B752 AAL"
AC#1174,461,"PAI B762 AAL"
AC#1175,461,"PAI B763 AAL"
AC#1176,490,"PAI B772 AAL"
AC#1177,453,"PAI F100 AAL"
AC#1178,440,"PAI MD83 AAL"
AC#2121,490,"PAI B772 DAL_MC"
AC#2122,490,"PAI B772 DAL_NC"
AC#2123,490,"PAI B772 DAL_SS"
AC#2124,437,"PAI MD81 DAL_OC"
AC#2125,437,"PAI MD81 DAL_MC"
AC#2126,437,"PAI MD81 DAL_NC"
AC#2130,460,"PAI MD90 DAL_OC"
AC#2131,460,"PAI MD90 DAL_NC"
AC#2132,460,"PAI B732 DAL_NC"
AC#2134,461,"PAI B764 DAL_MC"
AC#2135,461,"PAI B764 DAL_NC"
AC#2136,460,"PAI B752 DAL_OC"
AC#2137,460,"PAI B752 DAL_MC"
AC#2138,460,"PAI B752 DAL_NC"
AC#2139,461,"PAI B762 DAL_OC"
AC#2140,461,"PAI B762 DAL_MC"
AC#2141,461,"PAI B762 DAL_NC"
AC#2142,429,"PAI B733 DAL_OC"
AC#2143,429,"PAI B733 DAL_MC"
AC#2144,429,"PAI B733 DAL_NC"
AC#2146,430,"PAI B738 DAL_MC"
AC#2147,430,"PAI B738 DAL_NC"
AC#2148,460,"PAI B763 DAL_OC"
AC#2149,460,"PAI B763 DAL_MC"
AC#2150,460,"PAI B763 DAL_NC"
AC#2151,460,"PAI B752 DAL_SS"
AC#2152,473,"PAI MD11 DAL_OC"
AC#2153,473,"PAI MD11 DAL_MC"
AC#2154,473,"PAI MD11 DAL_NC"
AC#2641,200,"PAI A320V2 IAE JBU bubbles"
AC#2642,200,"PAI A320V2 IAE JBU dots"
AC#2643,200,"PAI A320V2 IAE JBU harlequin"
AC#2644,200,"PAI A320V2 IAE JBU mosaic"
AC#2645,200,"PAI A320V2 IAE JBU plaid"
AC#2646,200,"PAI A320V2 IAE JBU squares"
AC#2647,200,"PAI A320V2 IAE JBU stripes"
AC#2648,200,"PAI E190 JBU bubbles"
AC#2649,200,"PAI E190 JBU dots"
AC#2650,200,"PAI E190 JBU harlequin"
AC#3201,439,"PAI B734 LOT"
AC#3202,430,"PAI B735 LOT"
AC#3203,461,"PAI B762 LOT"
AC#3204,461,"PAI B763 LOT"
AC#3205,450,"PAI E145 LOT"
AC#3651,490,"PAI B744 PW UAL"
AC#3652,490,"PAI B772 UAL"
AC#3653,460,"PAI B752 PW UAL"
AC#3654,460,"PAI B763 UAL"
AC#3655,454,"PAI A320 UAL"
AC#3656,454,"PAI A319 UAL"
AC#3657,429,"PAI B733 UAL"
AC#3658,430,"PAI B735 UAL"
AC#3659,461,"PAI B762 UAL"
AC#3660,460,"PAI B763 UAL_Star"
AC#4066,450,"PAI B738W_JON MU HLF"
AC#4067,450,"PAI B738W_JON MU HLF TUI"
AC#4068,450,"PAI B738W_JON MU HLF WEB"
AC#4166,230,"PAI JS31 EZE"
AC#4167,260,"PAI JS41 EZE"
AC#4168,320,"PAI SB20 EZE"
AC#4169,450,"PAI E145 EZE"
AC#25121,200,"PAI E190 JBU mosaic"
AC#25122,200,"PAI E190 JBU squares"
AC#25123,200,"PAI E190 JBU stripes"
AC#47,264,"WoA_AIA_B763_GE_TOM-Thomsonfly"
AC#48,264,"WoA_AIA_B762_GE_TOM-Thomsonfly"
AC#49,250,"WoA_AIA_B752_RR_TOM-Thomsonfly"
AC#50,250,"WoA_AIA_B738_TOM-Thomsonfly"
AC#51,230,"WoA_AIA_B735_TOM-Thomsonfly"
AC#52,230,"WoA_AIA_B733_TOM-Thomsonfly"

Pro Member First Officer
rowcoach First Officer

that helps a lot actually. I was wondering what the AC#1,200,"AIA BOEING 767-300 AIR CANADA OLD COLORS" was all about. Now it all make sense.

Thanks again !!

Pro Member First Officer
rowcoach First Officer

Is this what you meant?

[fltsim.0]
title=AC#3,200,"AIA BOEING 767-300 AIR CANADA HYBRID COLORS"
sim=aia_767_300_ge
model=no_refl
panel=

I basically did that for all the aircraft - whether they were flyable or true AI planes.

poo-poo Guest

Shocked NO< NO< I didnot mean that at all!
You best read lee swordy Traffic Tools tutorial!
he explains it quite simple.
what i meant was after you decompile there is a aircraft.txt, thats what i showed you before like this

AC#52,230,"WoA_AIA_B733_TOM-Thomsonfly"

the aircraft.cfg thats in the aircraft looks like this

[fltsim.0]
title=WoA_AIA_B733_TOM-Thomsonfly
sim=aia_737_300
model=no_refl
texture=TOM-Thomsonfly
ui_manufacturer=Aardvark
ui_type=Boeing 737-300
atc_parking_codes=TOM
atc_parking_types=GATE
atc_heavy=0
description=AIA B737-300 for AI use
ATC_airline=THOMSON
ui_variation=Thomsonfly

this is a old fs2002, fs2004 you dinot have to paste the tutorial will explain that in detail how to add with out pasting. basically the same idea.

I am not sure what you are trying to do?
are you just simply trying to substitute a aircraft for the default ones?
or did you add flightplans for air canada, and want to know how to link that aircraft to that fligfht plan??

Pro Member First Officer
rowcoach First Officer

Embarassed Sorry for the confusion. I think what I am trying to do is just add aircraft to the flight plans I downloaded. The plans I downloaded have a list of planes needed - so I downloaded most of what I could find. I compiled the flight plan, planes, and airport docs with TT Tools. Now I'm trying to put the planes in so I can see them at an airport.

I'm going to find the tutorial to see if that helps. Thanks again for all your time. Smile

poo-poo Guest

hey! how did ya make out?????
can you paste your aircraft.txt from the air canada package here?
no big problem if you compiled the flight plans, with the same aircraft tags(AC#xx) as the default!! theres a few simple ways that TTOols can redo the default traffic.bgl back to original! Very Happy and you can reedit the aircanada ones again and try again

Pro Member First Officer
rowcoach First Officer

thanks for checking in on me. I thought I had everything right, but I was never able to find any of my new planes at any airports. I don't know if it has anything to do with the version of TT Tools I am using or if it is something I am doing wrong. The TT Tools I'm using came with the World of AI planes I've already installed. My version looks a little different that the one in the tutorial I was looking at.

Here is the aircraft.text file...

//AIR CANADA SPRING 2007 BY: GARRY LEWIS

AC#1,200,"AIA BOEING 767-300 AIR CANADA OLD COLORS"
AC#2,200,"AIA BOEING 767-300 AIR CANADA NEW COLORS"
AC#3,200,"AIA BOEING 767-300 AIR CANADA HYBRID COLORS"
AC#4,200,"AIA BOEING 767-300 AIR CANADA STAR ALLIANCE"
AC#5,200,"AIA BOEING 767-300 AIR CANADA FREE SPIRIT"

AC#6,200,"EVAI AIRBUS A321 AIR CANADA NEW COLORS"
AC#7,200,"EVAI AIRBUS A321 AIR CANADA HYBRID COLORS"

AC#8,200,"EVAI AIRBUS A320 AIR CANADA NEW COLORS"
AC#9,200,"EVAI AIRBUS A320 AIR CANADA HYBRID COLORS"
AC#10,200,"EVAI AIRBUS A320 AIR CANADA OLD COLORS"
AC#11,200,"EVAI AIRBUS A320 AIR CANADA SYMPHONY OF VOICES"

AC#12,200,"EVAI AIRBUS A319 AIR CANADA NEW COLORS"
AC#13,200,"EVAI AIRBUS A319 AIR CANADA HYBRID COLORS"
AC#14,200,"EVAI AIRBUS A319 AIR CANADA TRANS CANADA AIRLINES"
AC#15,200,"EVAI AIRBUS A319 AIR CANADA KIDS HORIZONS HYBRID COLORS"
AC#16,200,"EVAI AIRBUS A319 AIR CANADA KIDS HORIZONS NEW COLORS"

AC#17,200,"AIA EMBRAER E175 AIR CANADA NEW COLORS"

AC#18,200,"PAI EMBRAER E190 AIR CANADA NEW COLORS"

AC#19,200,"FSP AIRBUS A330-300 AIR CANADA NEW COLORS"
AC#20,200,"FSP AIRBUS A330-300 AIR CANADA HYBRID COLORS"

AC#21,200,"AIA BOEING 767-200 AIR CANADA NEW COLORS"
AC#22,200,"AIA BOEING 767-200 AIR CANADA HYBRID COLORS"
AC#23,200,"AIA BOEING 767-200 AIR CANADA OLD COLORS"

AC#24,200,"FSP AIRBUS A340-300 AIR CANADA NEW COLORS"
AC#25,200,"FSP AIRBUS A340-300 AIR CANADA HYBRID COLORS"
AC#26,200,"FSP AIRBUS A340-300 AIR CANADA STAR ALLIANCE"

AC#27,200,"FSP AIRBUS A340-500 AIR CANADA HYBRID COLORS"

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