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ILS approach at Portland (KPDX) on runway 28L

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mypilot Chief Captain

Try the ILS approach at Portland (KPDX) on runway 28L. It is slightly off. The visibility there is 1/2 mile today (I always fly with realworld weather) so I had to use the ILS approach. I was right on. No doubt about it. Still I landed on the taxiway and ended up crashing into a 767. Is there any way to fix the ILS approach. Just out of curiosity what does ILS stand for. It is something like instrument landing something.

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Agus0404 Chief Captain

I've made some crazy ILS approaches in different airports. The visibility was really low, like 1 or 2. The airport should have been closed in real life. It was rainy too and WINDS! OMG, that was so crazy, but I survived. It was fun anyways. I do the same as you by flying with real world weather. It's nice and lovely.

I don't know any file or something that fixes ILS approaches. What was wrong with your ILS approach? Did you have the localizer in the center?

ILS stands for Instrument Landing System. You use your instruments to land.

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mypilot Chief Captain

I had it centered but I landed on the taxiway. My altitude was alright. I wonder if anyone else has had the same problem.

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Agus0404 Chief Captain

I don't have that problem. Were you far away from the runway or just some degrees? That is strange.

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mypilot Chief Captain

My left wheels were on the grass or dirt and my right wheels were on the taxiway. Does the storm maybe affect it?

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Agus0404 Chief Captain

Could be.... Maybe you had strong winds. You have to perform a crosswind landing. Did you check the ATIS for the weather?

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mypilot Chief Captain

35 degree crosswind at 5 knots.

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Agus0404 Chief Captain

That's not much. The winds are calm. So, what could be the reason? Umm... Do you have the same problems with other aircraft? Maybe the aircraft you are using has some kind of problem.

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mypilot Chief Captain

I just tried it that one time. In was at Portland (KPDX) It was in the American 737-800. I've flown ILS landings before in that plane with no problem. I'll try it again.

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leadfoot First Officer

Try the ILS for rnwy 28L at KCMH, Port Columbus International, you'll land to the right in the grass between the rnwy and taxiway. Some of the ILS's are screwed up. You're not the first one to notice this glitch.

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mypilot Chief Captain

I just found another one too. South Lake Tahoe. (KTVL) Is there any updates or anything to fix it?

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Agus0404 Chief Captain

I didn't know that some ILS's are screwed up. I've never had this problem with ILS.



Last edited by Agus0404 on Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:42 pm, edited 1 time in total
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PH First Officer

Agus, bad pilots always blame the ILS! Unlike us who find a runway at the end of it Wink

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Agus0404 Chief Captain

ROFL That was a good one. PH, do you blame the ILS Wink ? I'm kidding.

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mypilot Chief Captain

Yeah. I still blame the ILS though. But I didn't crash.

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Agus0404 Chief Captain

mypilot wrote:

Try the ILS approach at Portland (KPDX) on runway 28L. It is slightly off. The visibility there is 1/2 mile today (I always fly with realworld weather) so I had to use the ILS approach. I was right on. No doubt about it. Still I landed on the taxiway and ended up crashing into a 767. Is there any way to fix the ILS approach. Just out of curiosity what does ILS stand for. It is something like instrument landing something.

You did crash following this ILS.
It's hard to fly the ILS with winds, I know. I have problems to, but I always try not to land on the taxiway. If you see that your are going to land on the taxiway go around and try again.

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PH First Officer

I always blame the ILS but find it quicker to taxi from landing on the taxiway to the terminal rather than landing on the runway....ATC always complain though!! Laughing

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mypilot Chief Captain

Agus0404 wrote:

mypilot wrote:

Try the ILS approach at Portland (KPDX) on runway 28L. It is slightly off. The visibility there is 1/2 mile today (I always fly with realworld weather) so I had to use the ILS approach. I was right on. No doubt about it. Still I landed on the taxiway and ended up crashing into a 767. Is there any way to fix the ILS approach. Just out of curiosity what does ILS stand for. It is something like instrument landing something.

You did crash following this ILS.
It's hard to fly the ILS with winds, I know. I have problems to, but I always try not to land on the taxiway. If you see that your are going to land on the taxiway go around and try again.

It was the 767 that made me crash. Not the ILS approach. If it hadn't been for the 767 on the taxi way, I wouldn' of crashed.

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Agus0404 Chief Captain

ROFL Hahaha, you are a funny guy, PH. That way is much faster than taxing to the gate. Hehe, I have to try it Wink

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Agus0404 Chief Captain

mypilot wrote:

Agus0404 wrote:

mypilot wrote:

Try the ILS approach at Portland (KPDX) on runway 28L. It is slightly off. The visibility there is 1/2 mile today (I always fly with realworld weather) so I had to use the ILS approach. I was right on. No doubt about it. Still I landed on the taxiway and ended up crashing into a 767. Is there any way to fix the ILS approach. Just out of curiosity what does ILS stand for. It is something like instrument landing something.

You did crash following this ILS.
It's hard to fly the ILS with winds, I know. I have problems to, but I always try not to land on the taxiway. If you see that your are going to land on the taxiway go around and try again.

It was the 767 that made me crash. Not the ILS approach. If it hadn't been for the 767 on the taxi way, I wouldn' of crashed.

I understand you, Mypilot. You should try the PH way to taxi. Don't land on the runway, land on the taxiway and that's it. It's easier Laughing And if you crash, blame the ILS! It wasn't your fault...

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leadfoot First Officer

HERE HERE NOW! I'm a good pilot, on the sim, and in real life. Try the one I discussed earlier. Bad pilot my foot.

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Agus0404 Chief Captain

We know, leadfoot. We were only joking. I have to try that landing you gave us.

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mypilot Chief Captain

Agus0404 wrote:

mypilot wrote:

Agus0404 wrote:

mypilot wrote:

Try the ILS approach at Portland (KPDX) on runway 28L. It is slightly off. The visibility there is 1/2 mile today (I always fly with realworld weather) so I had to use the ILS approach. I was right on. No doubt about it. Still I landed on the taxiway and ended up crashing into a 767. Is there any way to fix the ILS approach. Just out of curiosity what does ILS stand for. It is something like instrument landing something.

You did crash following this ILS.
It's hard to fly the ILS with winds, I know. I have problems to, but I always try not to land on the taxiway. If you see that your are going to land on the taxiway go around and try again.

It was the 767 that made me crash. Not the ILS approach. If it hadn't been for the 767 on the taxi way, I wouldn' of crashed.

I understand you, Mypilot. You should try the PH way to taxi. Don't land on the runway, land on the taxiway and that's it. It's easier Laughing And if you crash, blame the ILS! It wasn't your fault...

Laughing Laughing

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Fire_Emblem_Master Chief Captain

Why don't we just quote EVERYBODY! Razz

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Agus0404 Chief Captain

Ok, I'm up! Laughing Let's do it.

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mypilot Chief Captain

mypilot wrote:

Agus0404 wrote:

mypilot wrote:

Agus0404 wrote:

mypilot wrote:

Try the ILS approach at Portland (KPDX) on runway 28L. It is slightly off. The visibility there is 1/2 mile today (I always fly with realworld weather) so I had to use the ILS approach. I was right on. No doubt about it. Still I landed on the taxiway and ended up crashing into a 767. Is there any way to fix the ILS approach. Just out of curiosity what does ILS stand for. It is something like instrument landing something.

You did crash following this ILS.
It's hard to fly the ILS with winds, I know. I have problems to, but I always try not to land on the taxiway. If you see that your are going to land on the taxiway go around and try again.

It was the 767 that made me crash. Not the ILS approach. If it hadn't been for the 767 on the taxi way, I wouldn' of crashed.

I understand you, Mypilot. You should try the PH way to taxi. Don't land on the runway, land on the taxiway and that's it. It's easier Laughing And if you crash, blame the ILS! It wasn't your fault...

Laughing Laughing

I do! Laughing
I didn't realize it. Sorry. Laughing

Don Wood Guest

I tried the Port Columbus approach also and FS9 did center the ILS approach needles so that I was aligned for a landing on the grass off the taxi way.

You all think this is funny but a real world Continental Airlines pilot actually did land on a taxiway instead of the runway at the old Denver-Stapelton airport many years ago. Whats worse, he had Robert Six, at that time the President and CEO of Continental, on board at the time.

I have always wondered what the rest of his and his second officer's careers were like.

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mypilot Chief Captain

If they even had a carreer after that one. Was it their fault or was the ILS approach off like in the flight simulator?

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Fire_Emblem_Master Chief Captain

Don't be sorry Mypilot, i just think it's funny to view a post and see this tiling boxes with quotes all down it. Laughing

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mypilot Chief Captain

Yeah. It is mind racking!

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