A350?

That is effectivey what it is, just an upgraded A330. Much as the 787 is an upgraded 767. It's understandable really when you consider how established the aircraft are in the market, why change the design and risk losing potential customers. By doing this, exisiting airbus A330 customers, and there are of course many, will buy the A350 instead of going elsewhere.

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PW

true, that's a good point.

A350 ❤️

at least the 787 has new curvey cool wings and tail, that 350 looks EXACTLY the same.

Well, what does it matter if it's curvy or square? It uses new age materials that make it lighter and more durable. It uses less fuel per passenger, is quieter, faster, cleaner. "It doesn't have curves"? Really? 😂

I agree with hinch.. I mean, why not just put wings on a damn bus? It would be the same. no curves!

oh btw lol. I just thought... that's exactly what they've done! it's an AIRBUS!!!!! hilarious

now we all know the meaning of the name!

😕 I won't comment about this...

just if they're going to make a jet that costs 60 million, it may as well look pretty.

yes i go to an art college. things MUST be aesthetically pleasing!

Oh, what is the matter with you guys. I am convinced that most of you who are critizising the looks of the 330 have never even flown one.
I am not aware that a really good payware 330 has been made so far, hence the forums are not abuzz with praise.
The only good freeware 330s available at present are the POSKYs. Oh yes, I know, some sane minds occasionally mention and endorse the POSKYs, but let's face it, since the majority of members of this site at least seem to be inextricably tangled up in the Boeing Cult, those who actually fly the POSKYs, will be flying a Boeing.
Others who fly the A318, -319, -320, -321s use the iFDGs which, in the freeware department are easier to fly using default settings.

I want to point out the following to those who haven't figured it out for themselves yet:
To view a screenshot taken by someone else of an aircraft, or to view the same aircraft in flight from all the different angles that you yourself are capable of conjuring, will give you a completely different perspective of what an aircraft really looks like.

(I know that many of you, even though you would never admit it, are still having problems installing freeware aircraft, ergo you switch to payware and unfortunately never learn how to fly those detailed aircraft properly.)

Back to the topic: 'Queen of the Sky' -- the 747. I don't dispute that at all. I fly the 747 and IMO she's one of the most beautiful looking aircraft.
There can only be one Queen. But the Queen is not necessarely the only 'Beauty'.

In conclusion, out of all the members of the Airbus family, as far as looks are concerned, my vote goes to the 330. Therefore I call the 330 the 'Ballerina of the Sky'.

I have spoken

When it flies that well, who needs looks. You just board the plane -- You don't sit there and admire it. If it gets me from one place to another quickly, then I don't care if its a mule, I'll pay 😉

lol, heh.. i'm not criticizing anything, I was simply stating it's striking resemblance to the a330.

perhaps there will finally be two aircraft in this world that i will not be able to tell apart 😳 😳 😳

i just realised i have one uggerly plane in my sig flight 1 made it sort of nice looking :p

obviously i don't care about a planes looks if i'm travelling on it, as long as it handles nicely - it's just a shame they couldn't add a few features. i thought the french were meant to make very much designer things - look at their cars!

i'm shaking my ass.

It's not that simple folks. I've said it a thousand times and I say it again. MSFS is not only about flying and scoring the best possible report in FSpax.

I'm not even going to mention the countless enthusiasts who spend most of their waking hours authoring/creating aircraft models, soundsets, textures, gauges, utilities, sceneries... do you want me to continue..? -- and then tweaking and tweaking again, patching and updating -- all for the enhancement of our flying pleasure?

No, I won't even mention this at all... but what I will mention is the fact that some enthusiasts spend many hours making movies and taking screenshots with the purpose of winning screenshot contests... and you're trying to tell me that 'looks' are not important??

If indeed this is so, then I'll volunteer to find the ugliest aircraft available and for our next screenshot contest we'll just confine ourselfs to those ugly ducklings.

I would also stress that my opinion is not necessarely directed at you who have partaken in this thread -- experience has taught me to tiptoe in these forums when any slight disagreement could even remotely be misinterpreted as criticism.

i'm talking about the real thing, not an msfs plane. i'm being mean about the actual airbus company. i don't care if someone makes an ugly msfs model, i just won't download it.

I should have known better than to use more than five or should that be 5 words in my post

it's because i've only had 4hrs sleep 😛 i read the words...but not it makes sense. i should probably read your other post now 😀

Oh you poor thing... now, now, should Daddy come and tuck you in and sing you a lullaby?

At your own risk of course

My advice: Change your medication ❗

Only under proffesional supervision of course

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you're yet to see me off medication

LOL the bunny pic scares me.. the other one is just hilarious

i read the words...but not it makes sense

...that sounds like me in school, lol 😂

hinch wrote:

you're yet to see me off medication

Let's not push our luck now... boy, you scare the hell out of me 😳 😳

that was incredibly 'normal' of me. i'd hate you to see me being rather random.

in regards to the topic then: what are we on about?

Check this out.

A350 Cockpit

The full size version is even better! 😀

Ok,I'll just define the Airbus A-350:
The air bus A -350 is HALF the Airbus a-380:Only one deck,only two engines,half as long,half as wide,half as much capacity,half everything!

Tailhook wrote:

It's not that simple folks. I've said it a thousand times and I say it again. MSFS is not only about flying and scoring the best possible report in FSpax.

I'm not even going to mention the countless enthusiasts who spend most of their waking hours authoring/creating aircraft models, soundsets, textures, gauges, utilities, sceneries... do you want me to continue..? -- and then tweaking and tweaking again, patching and updating -- all for the enhancement of our flying pleasure?

No, I won't even mention this at all... but what I will mention is the fact that some enthusiasts spend many hours making movies and taking screenshots with the purpose of winning screenshot contests... and you're trying to tell me that 'looks' are not important??

If indeed this is so, then I'll volunteer to find the ugliest aircraft available and for our next screenshot contest we'll just confine ourselfs to those ugly ducklings.

I would also stress that my opinion is not necessarely directed at you who have partaken in this thread -- experience has taught me to tiptoe in these forums when any slight disagreement could even remotely be misinterpreted as criticism.

Excuse my ignorance dear Tailhook, however I referred to it in real life terms -- I understand that this may not be the forum for real life aircraft, seeing as how it is a flightsim forum, however, I was just saying that if you don't take its specs into consideration, it would be narrow minded to judge an aircraft by its looks. For example, take the beluga, or the Suber Guppy -- both look like a frog thats about to throw up, but when you ponder what exactly these aircraft can do, you actually start to admire them. Just a thought, and I apologize if it seems a little harsh. 😉

see that glass cockpit? how many more computer screens can one fit into a flight deck? lol

i like the HUDs.. that's a nice addition. they're going to be onboard the 787 also.

notice how airbus continues the tradition of making every cockpit the same. (with a few adjustments) .. that's excellent for pilots going from one aircraft to another. boeing has only done that with their 757 and 767.

Can I ask one question about HUD's.
What's the point in them??

Pilots can land perfectly well without them in all weather conditions these days, what with CAT III autoland etc. So why have Airbus, and Boeing, included them. Surely this just adds to the cost of producing each unit which is transferred to the customer and eventually to the consumer, i.e. you and I.

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PW

it stops you having to move your eyes from instruments to the outside. use one in game and see, it's a lot easier to fly with one.

hinch is correct.
If you get chance to see any cockpit video where you can see the pilot in command,most of the time he is watching the instuments and only looking outside for reference

Agus0404 wrote:

Check this out.

A350 Cockpit

The full size version is even better! 😀

Wow... is that a payware cockpit?

lol.. no sphagnum.. that's a depiction of an actual A350 cockpit.. that's not an FS9 aircraft. 😉 😂 😂

..and commenting on the HUDs.. that is a wonderful improvement for pilots, because think about it.. a pilot can actually add those boxes to the HUD (the ones that we have seen in flight simulator) and fly throught the boxes on an ILS approach. lol.. rather than flight sim trying to imitate real-life aviation.. it appears that real-life aviation is actually imitating flight sim now! 😳 😳

A word on HUD. It stands for Heads Up Display and has been used in fighter aircraft for many years for obvious reasons. To spell it out, inside a fighter cockpit things happen obviously much faster than inside a jetliner.

The basic idea is that (in particular inside a fighter cockpit) you have to look out the window for situational awareness and at your instruments for obvious reasons as well as situational awareness. As everything happens so fast, a fighter pilot would be getting neck strain from the constant motion of looking up and down -- hence the additional display on the windscreen: HUD.

Take a look at these...

http://www.airbus.com/store/photolibrary/AIRCRAFT/AIRBUS/INTERIOR/att00007096/media_object_image_lowres_a350_cabin_general_view_tvscreen_bar_ecoclass.jpg

http://www.airbus.com/store/photolibrary/AIRCRAFT/AIRBUS/INTERIOR/att00007097/media_object_image_lowres_a350_cabin_eco_optic_fibre_seat_numbering.jpg

Can't wait to fly on this bird!!! 😉

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That's incredible!!! The cabin is the most beautiful cabin I've ever seen ❤️

Tell me about it!!

Compared to the A330...

http://www.jetphotos.net/images/p/PICT8306cabin.jpg.57053.jpg

I suppose with the next generation of jets, this will become the industry standard 😀

Uhh, I don't see the picture in that link....

Sorry, try this one.....

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5647245

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Yeah...it's a big difference. But I'd like to see the final result of the A350 cabin.

The pictures of that cabin do look very nice indeed, but most of the time, it is modelled in that fashion to attract buyers. They did it with the 747's when they came out - made the interior look amazing, with lots of space and comfy seats....but then airlines get their hands on them and you get packed in like sardines ➡ http://photos.airliners.net/photos/middle/8/9/0/1014098.jpg

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thats 200% correct 99jolegg, i couldn't have said it any better.

it's like at a car show, or a commercial for a car. you see it "with all features and accessories" .. when you buy it you get the minimum package (most of the time :wink🙂

the models of the A350 and other airliner's cabins when they're first introduced always need to show a spacious, futuristic-like cabin..... when in reality, the airlines will only make money if it's like a box of sardines. (with the exception of 6 or 7 rows of first class)

I suppose you guys are right. It's just like when the A380 was first launched they advertised swimming pools and casinos in the cabin. I can't see that ever happening??

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i have a giant poster of an A330 cockpit and it looks the same (apart from the HUD's and it looks slightly nicer. There are also a few more screens) I don't like the fact that new Airbus planes have a "joystick" instead of a yoke. The control of a huge aircraft all down to a stick a few inches high!
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From what I hear pilots *love* the joystick - and the extra leg room.

well.. it's no different than a yoke really.. the only difference is that the yoke is in front of you, whereas the sidestick is to the pilot's side (captain's left, first officer's right)

on final approach you'll notice that the pilot in control almost never has both hands on the yoke. one is on the yoke, the other on the throttle. so.. what's really all that different about a sidestick?

and besides.. the sidestick allows for so much more legroom.. and even a fold-out tray for food or navigation charts.

having said all that.. i am still more fond of having a yoke in front of me rather than a stick to my side... but i have nothing against sidesticks or joysticks. 😉

pilotguy44 wrote:

well.. it's no different than a yoke really.. the only difference is that the yoke is in front of you, whereas the sidestick is to the pilot's side (captain's left, first officer's right)

on final approach you'll notice that the pilot in control almost never has both hands on the yoke. one is on the yoke, the other on the throttle. so.. what's really all that different about a sidestick?

and besides.. the sidestick allows for so much more legroom.. and even a fold-out tray for food or navigation charts.

having said all that.. i am still more fond of having a yoke in front of me rather than a stick to my side... but i have nothing against sidesticks or joysticks. 😉

Yikes, what if you're uncoordinated with your left hand? 😂

I really dislike using my left hand when flight-simming and will cross my hands over if I must to avoid such. In a real-life A3XX, that wouldn't be a possibility I know...

The pilot in most aircrafts(airplanes with side by side seating) sits on the left, left hand on the control wheel or side stick and right hand on the throttle or thrust levers. 🙂

CRJCapt wrote:

The pilot in most aircrafts(airplanes with side by side seating) sits on the left, left hand on the control wheel or side stick and right hand on the throttle or thrust levers. 🙂

Exactly while I'll stick with the Cessna's with the stick between my legs

Sphagnum1 wrote:

Exactly while I'll stick with the Cessna's with the stick between my legs

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i want that one =) amazing cockpit very luxurious.

lol.. it's really no different from every other airbus cockpit....

(except for the HUDs :wink🙂