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ATC is trying to kill me!

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Today I was on final approach to Anchorage International, RWY 32, in a Cessna 172 , flying IFR and cleared to land, and ATC gave clearance to a 737 behind me to land!! The 737 passed me (about half a mile away) and landed in front of me, and ATC told me to go around. I did, and as I was on final approach the second time, ATC cleared an MD-83 (I think that's what it was) to land and the same thing happened-- the jet passed me and landed in front of me. This time I ignored ATC's instruction to go around and landed anyhow, when I could see the jet was off the runway.

A while ago at KPAE I was cleared to land VFR on RWY 16R, and shortly after landing I collided with a passenger jet taking off going the other direction!

I know these thing happen in real life, but I don't expect things like this in a simulator. I'm not using any add-ons or Ultimate Traffic, just FS9 right out of the box. Weird, huh?

Ed

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David (The-GPS-Kid) Captain

I would have to deduce that you are correct ; The Approach Controller knows who you are and has been 'bunged' to get rid of you!

Or, it may be that you are using the Wrong Runway.... Is there a smaller alternative Runway at Anchorage (never flown there myself), that could be used for GA.

The Approach Controllers need to manage a lot of traffic and so are skilled at assessing the timescales for your Final Approach - Because you are in a Cessna 172, your Final Approach will be taking a lot longer than the Jets so FS2004 is getting confused and clearing other jets to land in front of you as it senses that they are 'coming in' faster than you.

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Well, there is no runway 32L or 32R at PANC, just runway 32. ATC gave me vectors to that position.

Maybe I should try it again flying as fast as I can-- I was doing about 100 kias, but it's a long runway, maybe I should come in flaps up, pedal to the metal and see if I can beat out that jet. Shocked

Or maybe they really are trying to kill me. Very Happy

Ed

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And by the way, ATC is not clearing them to land in front of me; they were supposed to come in behind me but passed me. In the second attempt, the MD-83 was told "You're number 2 behind the Cessna on final," and the jet passed me anyhow.

Ed

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John Hodges (originalgrunge) Captain

That's one feature i wish this FS had, an ATC that could call out speeds. I've had that problem of just making it a race to the finish line to see who was gonna go around and who would land. It gets especially bad with UT when you're in a race with 5 other planes to land!

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Alex (Fire_Emblem_Master) Chief Captain

HA, do you really think that a dinky little prop could beat a jet. Even if you were doing 127 knots, a MD-88 lands at 152-165 depending on weight. They're going around 30 knots faster, best case scenario, you'd get just above the runway, and they'd rear end you on their go-around.

Mind you, i've never had to race one, because if it looks like it's gonna take a while, I just enter the left traffic pattern and stay in it until it clears out.

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David (The-GPS-Kid) Captain

Speed is certainly your problem - I guess Anchorage just isn't a good Airport to fly light GA aircraft like the Cessna into.... Is there a smaller Airfield close by, in Alaska ?

Good luck !

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HA! Are there airports around Anchorage? You wouldn't BELIEVE how many airports there are around Anchorage-- the GPS display is solid pink with all the airports. There are dozens, if not hundreds, within the city. Every other house has a strip in the backyard, I think. A lot of them are about 900 feet (~300 m) and grass, but there are A LOT of them.

But PANC is the only one I could remember the airport code for. . .

Ed

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David (The-GPS-Kid) Captain

Nice one - I'll have to take the Cessna Golden Eagle 421c over to Alaska to investigate, sounds good with the weather and all those small strips to land on !

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Alex (Fire_Emblem_Master) Chief Captain

Ya, the Copilot would be like "Which one do we land on, they all look the same!" I'd say "i dunno, shut your eyes and pick one!"

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The-GPS-Kid wrote:

Nice one - I'll have to take the Cessna Golden Eagle 421c over to Alaska to investigate, sounds good with the weather and all those small strips to land on !

I did a Google search and found the following information about Alaska:

"Pilots and Aircraft: It's estimated that Alaska has about 6 times as many pilots per capita and 16 times as many aircraft per capita as the rest of the US. "

I guess that's why they need so many airports. Exclamation

Ed

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