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crosscheck9 Guest

Hi,
The other day, I was on final at London's Gatwick Airport, and all of a sudden, I found my self entering a cloud. What do you do in such instances, Im in a hurry so i have to leave, sorry and happy flying

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Jonathan (99jolegg) Chief Captain

Hi,
If there were clouds around that prevented you from seeing the runway properly, then you probably should have flown IFR to the runway, using ILS, instead of VFR because otherwise you lose track of the runway. I've made this mistake before, flying around Canada, I entered a big cloud on approach and just had to use the GPS to judge the height and I used the GPS to find map to find the runway heading. See ya 😀

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Alex (Fire_Emblem_Master) Chief Captain

THIS IS FOR IFR FLIGHT!

1. When ATC says something liek "WifeBeater 767, you are 32 Miles away. Turn right heading 105, descend and mantain 2,500 feet, cleared ILS runway 36R Approach". You have to click on your MAP icon in your cockipt. Then, move your mouse over the destination airport. Mind you, the airport MUST have the ILS feathers (thes are the green things that point to the runway). Double click on the airport. A list will show up. Scroll down the list untill you see a chart that shows Runway numbers. FInd 36R, or whatever your runway is. You look to the right and see a radio frequency. We'll use 100.100 because its easy to remember. Don't forget the frequency.

2. Open up your Radio Stack, and enter in 100.100 in the NAV1 Radio, usually the righmost radio number is the one that can be messed with. After you enter it 100.100, using the mouse wheel or clickin it. Press the button that looks like thsi somewhat, its in the middle of the 2 radio displays <-----> That changes the NAV1 Radio frequency from whatever it was, to what it is now (100.100)

3.Turn on the NAV1 Radio by clicking the switch at the bottom of the radio stack, unless its already on, like with the LearJet.

4. If you have Autopilot, and you are using GPS to follow waypoints, switch the NAV/GPS button back to NAV!!!! YOU CANT FORGET TO DO THAT!!! YOU'LL BURN AND DIE IF YOU DONT!!

5. Follow ATC directions to approach. Now, when you approach the Runway, you will see the pink arrows near your attitude indicator move...usually Heading first, then Altitude. Simply fly in the directon and atitude of the pink arrows intull they center themselves, that means you're on the glideslope!

6. If you wanna use the autopilot to fly the approach, simply follow steps 1-4, then click the APPR button on the autopilot panel.

crosscheck9 Guest

Hi,
I know exactly what you were talking about, but the thing is, I was cleared for a visual, and when I checked on my GPS, it had no ILS and it wasn't available just for guidance. I was looking good, but it was a very sudden cloud entrance. When landing in such airports, can I get the controller to guide me straight to it, like telling me which heading to turn to exactly, etc. If you have any useful advice, It would be nice if you could post it. Thank you

PH Guest

In the descent check the ATIS if there is cloud below 1500ft for example request/continue IFR. Not sure if this is possible in FS though!

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David (The-GPS-Kid) Captain

A lot of good views on this one......

My view would be that correct procedure would have been to have done a "GO AROUND", and have another try at the landing.... If this was no good, and if I was flying VFR, I'd head to an Alternate.

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leadfoot First Officer

I usually have a layer of clouds at low levels because in reality there is generaly a layer at anywhere from 1000' to 5- 6000' agl. I hand fly all app. in the heavys(737 777 etc.) ILS so the clouds pose no problem. If you have low vis. i.e. 3 miles or less or fog, it is best to use Autoland.

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