Help me land!!

M15 Guest
Asked
Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:47 pm

Hi all,

I have FS2004 installed over here. I decided to take all the flying lessons. But I have a problem with the landing lesson.

I descent with a speed of 75 knots and 10 degrees of flaps, exactly like they tell you to do in the lesson. I pull back the joystick a little when I am 10 feet above the ground to start the flare and at the same time I pull back the throttle all the way to idle.

But I must be doing something wrong, because I start to rise again just above the runway ALL THE TIME!! So what I do is push the joystick a little forward again to descent a little and then I try flaring again, and then it usually works.

But what am I doing wrong? If I understand the lesson well, I am doing everything exactly like they tell me to. Am I descending too fast? Should I pull the throttle to idle before I even start to flare? Am I pulling too hard on the joystick?

Any feedback appreciated!!

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Pro Member Chief Captain
RadarMan Chief Captain
Joined: Aug 25, 2003 Posts: 17934 Location: U.S.A
Answered
Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:08 pm

This should help.

https://forum.flyawaysimulation.com/forum/topic/8080/ils-approach-guide-tutorial/

Radar

M15 Guest
Answered
Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:42 pm

Thanks for that...but I must admit I don't really understand most of it.
I must admit I am an absolute beginner at all this!

Is there anything available for beginners that will explain my question?

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CRJCapt Chief Captain
Joined: Sep 12, 2005 Posts: 3724 Location: Ohio,USA
Answered
Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:26 pm

http://www.4p8.com/eric.brasseur/flight_simulator_tutorial.html#landing

Jamie4590 Guest
Answered
Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:32 pm

Your throttle should be around 40% when your wheels touch down at which point you pull back to reverse thrust. If your throttle is less than that you risk a high sink rate or stall.

Guest Ed Guest
Answered
Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:09 am

Jamie4590 wrote:

Your throttle should be around 40% when your wheels touch down at which point you pull back to reverse thrust. If your throttle is less than that you risk a high sink rate or stall.

Jamie, I'm guessing that if M15 is landing at 75 knots, he's not in a plane that has reverse thrust, and he probably doesn't have an N1 display to tell him he's at 40% thrust-- probably he's in a Cessna 172?

M15, it sounds like you're flaring a little too soon. Pull back the throttle when you cross the runway threshold, but don't flare until you're closer to the ground. And don't pull the nose up so much.

Landing is the most difficult part of sim flying; lots of practice will help. Save a flight where you're on the downwind at pattern altitude, and do the landing again and again, until you can nail it every time.

Ed

M15 Guest
Answered
Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:16 am

Thanks!! I'll try those tips!
Sorry for not mentioning, but indeed I am flying a Cessna 172 and I did the 'student pilot lessons' in FS2004.

CRJCapt, thanks for that link, very usefull!!

Jamie4590 Guest
Answered
Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:27 pm

Guest Ed, Ok my bad but I'm sure the principle works roughly the same in a prop and jet engine aircraft. It can be tempting to close the throttle too early which has caused me to come crashing down on many occasions 😀

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