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Greekman72 Chief Captain

Unfortunatelly here in Greece we have an aircraft crash with probably more than 100 passengers.It was a Cyprus airways aircraft and fall down about 30miles north east of Athens in a mountainous area.The news is quit fresh and the media doenst have a lot of infrormations yet or they have some not professed yet.(aircraft type and conditions of this accident has happened)There are some scenarios which talk about terrorist act,some other that the craft runs out of fuel(!!!!) but its only rummors till this moment.The only thing is truth till this moment is that the aircraft has two F-16 as escorts in about 1 hour before it crash.The pilotS of F-16s report that they have seen that the oxygen masks has fall in the passengers area and also that they have notice that there was no co-pilot in the flight deck and that they have seen a man with a mask there.Although i think that its too early to believe anything.

Wish to God about all this people.



Last edited by Greekman72 on Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:36 pm, edited 2 times in total
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Zach (ranald) Captain

O no thats horrible!!keep us informed on news.

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Greekman72 Chief Captain

Of course i will,but i believe that we have to wait some hours because the scenarios about what causes this accident are multiplying minute to minute and its too early to have a clear view of the facts.Since now the most popular scenario is that there was some kind of damage in air condition system together with a damage to the oxygen flow thats why it believed that most of the passengers and the crew has lost their sences before the craft crash.The type of the aircraft probably was a Boieng 737 and the company name is ''Helios'' which in Greek means sun. Seems that we go away from the possibilitie of a terrorist act.Dont KnowI also notice that CNN has starting to broadcast about this accident.

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Zach (ranald) Captain

My dad just heard on the news that the aircraft depreserized whitch caused all the passengers and crue to die before it even hit the ground Crying or Very sad

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Greekman72 Chief Captain

Yes thats what they say about causing this accident,but how can it could depreserised with not being spot any hole on it?The F-16 pilots doenst report such a thing.I dont know Dont Know

Anyway ,the fact is that all these humman looses are not going to come back.They start another long journey....... Sad Sad Sad

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Greekman72 Chief Captain

The latest news are that the ''Black Boxes'' has been found.The number of passengers was 121 and its confirm my guess that it was a Boing737.The only intact part of the spindle was the back winds.The fact finders also said that its definetely not a terrorist attack.They have told several things about the passengers condition but i ll avoid to write anything about it in trying to give them some respect.All the possibilities of this accident has as reference point some troubles with the air condition system of the craft.Thats the resume news till now.

Anyway this accident reminds me an older topic i have post about the safety of flights...

https://forum.flyawaysimulation.com/forum/topic/7553/safety-flights-money-earning-ot/#41785

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Jason (Av8r77) First Officer

The plane doesn't have to have a hole in it to become depressurized. A slow leak could have been the cause, which is the most dangerous because you have to notice the signs of your hypoxia to realize it is happenning.

One of the signs is euphoria, or you think everything is just great. You could be flying along with your nose pointed at the ground and think it's all cool.

When I went to the chamber a few years ago, they gave us a worksheet with simple things to do on it. At 20,000 feet for about a minute, I wasn't able to write my name because my motor skills weren't working. I didn't realize I had messed that and other things up until I had put back on my oxygen and looked at the sheet. I thought I had answered all the questions right, but 10-5 is not 9!

Payne Stewarts plane crashed because of a slow depressurization the rendered the crew unconcious and incapacitated.

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Greekman72 Chief Captain

Very good informations Av8r77.I bet it was a starnge and interesting experience.

Thanks Wink

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tomthetank Chief Captain

A very sad day

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4150312.stm

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,165656,00.html

Just reported on Skynews Arrow

Click video if you are on broadband

The aircraft may not have pressurized from takeoff,so the pilots and passengers would have been starved of oxygen very slowly

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Canyon (NoWorries) Captain

Av8r77 wrote:

Payne Stewarts plane crashed because of a slow depressurization the rendered the crew unconcious and incapacitated.

Payne Stewarts plane crashed because of a design flaw by Bombardier that a maintenance technician had to turn the cabin pressure system on from the nose wheel well, and it was overlooked in the preflight that the valve was off.

That plane never pressurized.

My thoughts are with the 737 passengers in Greece. Sad

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Jason (Av8r77) First Officer

The jury that heard the case didn't put fault on Learjet.

Can't be held accountable for it when a court finds you not liable.

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atreyu Captain

did one of those f-16's get video of it?

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Greekman72 Chief Captain

The media doesnt announce such a think(video record)but if they get a video would they publish it?I m not so sure. Confused

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Canyon (NoWorries) Captain

Av8r77 wrote:

The jury that heard the case didn't put fault on Learjet.

Can't be held accountable for it when a court finds you not liable.

Just because they had a little note that said, "Turn on the pressure system." doesn't mean that it wasn't a stupid design and killed people. Products liability is a fun little game played in the courts, and just because Bombardier didn't have to pay anyone for their mistake, doesn't change the fact that they removed Payne Stewart, inter alia, from this world.

Guest

IS NOT A CYPRUS AIRWAYS AIRPLANE. PLEASE WHEN YOU REFERING FOR BAD NEWS PLEASE BE TRUTH FULL.

HLIOS AIRLINES AND CYPRUS AIRLINES IS 2 DEFERENT COMPANYS.

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Alex (Fire_Emblem_Master) Chief Captain

I would guess that accidental ignorance is different than knowledgeable lying Wink

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Greekman72 Chief Captain

Dear guest if you were a better reader you must have notice that my first post was very close to the accident time, so the media didnt have clear informations about the company's name and they have said about a ''Cyprus Airways'' craft.
If you have read some posts below you could have seen that i have write the excact name of the company.

''The type of the aircraft probably was a Boieng 737 and the company name is ''Helios'' which in Greek means sun. ''

Thanks a lot Wink

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